Methuselah

Back pedal, me?...Anyhoo, I've absolutely no idea what our surface temp would be if our atmosphere was entirely made-up of CO2. ​But I am 100% certain that, if it were, we'd have been long-asphyxiated!

Oh dear, J...it was a joke...

Aye, but he's often no more correct than someone using chicken entrails!

Oh dear!

So that's why I have no opinions concerning Yorkshire, Barrie?

Have you forgotten the MWP?

I wonder who that'll be then!

I think we can all be thankful for that, Keith!

An absolutely stonking morning!

I agree, C.While I concur with all those who don't subscribe to the all the 'cold, warm, wet, dry or windy' Autumns means Yamkinesque amounts of snow, come January schools-of-thought, ubiquitous deep snow in Siberia ought to lead to the development of deeper, colder air masses...Which would (even based on first principles of thermodynamics?) in the event of ideal synoptics, allow for more-severe spells of cold weather. That said, however cold the air over Siberia may become, there's never any guarantee that it'll necessarily find its way over here...

Does this mean (Arctic-ice being so unquestionably in decline) that the Antarctic, where things are not yet so clear-cut, will be the main focus of future attempts at obfuscation?

We might GW...

Aye rob...An awful lot of Snowmageddons and BBQ summers do find their way down the toilet.

But let's be honest with ourselves, for a minute...When was the last Autumn in which we were not being told that 'all the prerequisites were in place' for a snow-fest winter? The snowcasters were right in 2010 and 2011, but the rest of the time they tend to be woefully off-target with their predictions... It's still only September!

Come on J, of course it can...Even if we do get asphyxiated first!

I think that this year's ice-extent has reached alarmingly low levels. And whatever Joe B. blethers on about won't make an iota of difference! That said, no-doubt his band of acolytes will beg to differ...King and country, right or wrong?

And, why not?

Thanks songster...definitely looks like a deliberate use of misinformation, to me. So, nothing new!

Link seems to be broken, Ian?

Aye peeps, please use the winter-forecast thread for making unsubstantiated seasonal predictions... I know we all do it, but here isn't the place. Thank you peeps...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/7545648/Conspiracy-theorists-spurn-climate-change

And the new one's still too hot for LG...

A lovely dry, sunny start...No thermometer yet.

Perfect for fence-painting!

I think you mean CFS...Cold, I think?