Sunny76
-
Posts
8,316 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
4
Content Type
Forums
Blogs
Gallery
Events
Learn About Weather and Meteorology
Community guides
Posts posted by Sunny76
-
-
1 minute ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
My barber was a typical Black Country bloke. Luckily in the 1980's 'New Order' haircuts became fashionable with grade 1 short back and sides and leave a bit on top. Which is pretty much what the old blokes used to have for eternity. So the barber was in his element when I sat in the chair and said can you do the 'New Order mate' as I produced a picture of Bernard Sumner.
Did he Get the Message? Lol
I also liked Electronic as well. Such an underrated band, and very much an continuation of New Order.
1 minute ago, B87 said:Look at old football matches from the 70s/80s. Half the teams look like they are about 50 and were picked at random from the local pub!
Many football players drank beer in those days. Think that’s why they looked older.
-
1
-
-
4 minutes ago, B87 said:
Same, the 60s to 80s seemed to have awful summers for the most part (especially the 60s).
I’m just wondering though, if that did have an influence as to why tv shows were so bleak back then. Especially U.K. based tv shows.
Play for Today, and other bbc dramas during that period always looked so grey, grainy and depressing.
6 minutes ago, B87 said:Same, the 60s to 80s seemed to have awful summers for the most part (especially the 60s).
Not 1975 or 76 though.
-
2 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:
Some of the hairstyles back in the 70s and 80s made people look older. Many people back then also smoked and didn't use sunscreen.
I have noticed that it's the baby boomer generation that started to look younger.
I think people born after 1955 tend to have looked after themselves better, and they would have been the first generation to sign up to gyms during the early 80s keep fit boom.
Most older folk didn’t really think about keeping fit, or look vain, because day to day survival was more important. The recovery from the impact of WW2 probably took a few decades to recover from.
-
3
-
-
6 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
I agree chap. After the cold/wet spring. Then the non summer (apart from 2 and a half weeks in June). I will dearly like to see a warm September and October. Even a very mild November. The chill had pervaded 2023. We need to redress it.
Yes, the cold dull weather really did outstay it’s welcome in 2023 until about mid May, and into June in some parts of the country.
-
6 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:
You're still young.
I believe September 1998 saw it's warmest day of the year in some parts of Scotland around as late as the 21st.
September 98 was the warmest September at the time since 1980.
-
1
-
-
6 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
Yeah Ian Curtis had his health issues which Peter Hook has well documented. Reference to the Jam. Another of my favourite bands. Late 70's punk/new wave in to the early 80's a brilliant time for music. But also fashion and links to football clubs . Admitted also football holliganism but it was all there. Punk. New Wave. Ska. Reggae. A truly great era for music/fashion/culture
I wish I was born in 1966, so I would have been old enough to enjoy and witness the period of September 79 with Gary Numan arriving on the scene and setting the stage for the transition into the 80s. Pink Floyd’s rare occasion of having a number 1, with the impressive music video, the 2-tone stuff with Madness and The Specials, the tail end of New Wave and early synth pop and New Romantic stuff.
As for the Jam, they were great, but I do believe Weller made the right decorations to push on with Style Council. Also liked David Bowie around this period, especially his Scary Monsters album.
I think Band Aid killed it off, and things were never the same again.
I listen to Chart Music podcast with Al Needham and they often refer to the Live Aid period as the boundary between where the good 80s end, and the bad 80s start. Way too many crappy American bands or stuff that sounded yank started popping up in the mid 80s.
Anyway back to the weather
5 minutes ago, B87 said:We are yet to see a frost-free year, however 2007 and 2008 both failed to even see a 30c day here. There will always be cold days in winter. Very rarely there will be a summer with no hot days.
Yeah agree with this.
-
8 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
Massive band Joy Division. Always wonder where they would be today. Obviously New Order took over but we will never know. I'm off to see Peter Hook and the Light in Wolverhampton October.
That’s an interesting one isn’t it.
New Order formed from the ashes, and their first album in 81 still had that leftover sound from Joy Division.
Blue Monday didn’t come out until 83, so a lot of changes could have taken place in those 3 years between Love Will Tear Us Apart and Blue Monday.
I feel it would have been something similar to the way The Jam ended up, with Paul Weller wanting to leave and form the Style Council.
Ian Curtis would have felt increasingly alienated with the changing landscape and would have jumped ship. That’s my take on it.
-
2 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
It wasn't warm at all. July was terrible. Some ok days in August. Cool blustery wet dull. Awful.
And Joy Division !
He hung himself in the bathroom, in May 1980. Go figure.
Maybe he was tired of the dire climate back then!
In all seriousness, he was consumed with guilt for having an affair with some music journalist who was hanging around with him at the time.
Ian Curtis was one selfish stainglass window.
-
12 minutes ago, Frostillicus said:
This summer started out awful and gave us a lifeline as we dodged many bullets. Summer is what it always is; a 16 week test of my sanity and endurance
Versus a 9 month test of sanity with grey clag and gloomy cloudy conditions. Just what the doctor ordered.
No wonder this country has created bands like The Cure and The Smiths. The grey weather has definitely influenced the music that Britain churns out.
-
3
-
-
5 hours ago, Methuselah said:
Or those who keep whining about how 'cool' it's been. It wasn't a cool summer!
It wasn’t that warm either, but let’s not go there, because I’ll be called ‘boring’ and be banned
-
1
-
-
20 minutes ago, Metwatch said:
Living almost in the depths of a city as well, have to cycle about 20-25 minutes to get into the countryside, but for something like the Cotswolds it's a half hour drive at least. For London though i'm sure you could get some great city views from a skyscraper?
Highgate is a nice spot for viewing the city down below. Also, one of the few places that gets snow on winter when the rest of inner London are snowless lol.
1 hour ago, SollyOlly said:Ah brother, I remember those years with fondness...! vive la difference, as they say (I think). 1979 was one of my very favourites. 2010 was magnificent too!
2009 was decent too.
-
18 minutes ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:
They also just have great genetics haha, alongside - arguably more importantly - generally very good diets and lifestyles. Alot of fresh oily fish, good quality grains and seasonal fruit, veg etc. Alot of swimming (including cold water swimming), running etc.
You can either optimise, or screw-up, your DNA through your diet and lifestyle. That in turn affects your 'ageing' process. Stress is one of the main factors that makes you age.
Indeed, modern science will tell us that it's the sun that makes us age the most but, as you say, people from colder, harsher and less sunny climates usually look far more rough and haggard by 40/50, than people from hot sunny climates like Greece or Italy (who have some of the longest lifespans in the world outside of countries like Japan!)
I think diet and exercise will factor how much you become stressed, or how one is able to cope with stressful situations.
I know caffeine and chocolate make me anxious in large amounts, so when I’m faced with something unforeseen, which may create me to feel stressed, the anxiety or lack of being able to cope will only be ten fold, due to too much caffeine and chocolate.
Days when I’ve had less than 4 mugs of tea and hardly anything sweet, my mood is more relaxed and I’ll be able to deal with many things that come my way.
Maybe that’s just me though.
-
1
-
-
19 minutes ago, Frigid said:
Agreed, being born in 2003 I've hardly got any solid recollections of the colder winters from 2008-13. I can recall end of December 2009 being very snowy and my birthday in Dec 2010. But after that it's been pretty on and off. No sustained cold ever since, probably why I crave colder winters more than any other season. I do wish I was more awake in December 2010, one in a lifetime winters month..
To be fair, even I think the early 10s is a long time ago now. Anything prior to 2013 feels like a lifetime.
-
16 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
Yeah but Jan 79 and Dec 81 both had loads of snow.
Yeah. Still too young for the 81 event, but somehow I remember falling snow when we lived near Sloane Square. The lease was up in November 1980, which means I must have remembered it snowing in January 1980 in London. Or maybe I remember the snowfall of 79, I highly doubt it though.
86 and 87 along with Feb 91 are my favourite memories of deep snow in London. I’ll add February 2009 to that list and the snow of February 1994 to a lesser extent.
-
1
-
-
9 minutes ago, cheese said:
I always thought people in the 70s & 80s looked older than they were. I found out recently that the Golden Girls were supposed to be women in their 50s even though they looked about 70!
Most people looked older on tv shows and films in general up until around 1988. Post 88 more people seem to look younger and healthier. That seemed to be the period of rapid warming.
Maybe in a warming climate, more people decide to stay fitter, drink more water?
How many people do you see walking round with large water bottles nowadays? I don’t remember seeing anyone carrying one of those around back in 1987.
Sorry for going off topic.
-
2
-
1
-
-
14 minutes ago, SollyOlly said:
Ooh, you're a youngster (!). I was a teen during the 80s, and it all seemed normal to me. I look back and think that the 1940s, and 1960s, were 'cool'...my own time seemed normal. These days seem unrelentingly warm! No doubt my kids will be saying something different when they're old 'uns...
I still feel cold when it’s in the mid 10s(or mid 50s F in old money), but can tell people who were born after 1995 or so, who complain about 9c feeling cold after dropping from 13c.
Yes 9c feels chilly, but it’s not 5c.
The thing is, some of them have never seen a cold winter, even the late 2000s 2008-12 era will seem like a long time ago for anyone who is 25 or under.
12 minutes ago, SollyOlly said:Ah brother, I remember those years with fondness...! vive la difference, as they say (I think). 1979 was one of my very favourites. 2010 was magnificent too!
I wish I was old enough to witness 79, but 79/80 and 80/81 were stinkers for winter snow.
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, cheese said:
I was born in 1987 and the 80s seem like a cold decade to me, both summers and winters. At least until the late 80s. Glad I avoided them.
The 80s had a few hot summers. 83 and 84 along with 89 still rival most recent years for long sunny periods.
It does appear when you look back at the 80s, everyone looks so tired and drab looking. Maybe the cooler climate had that affect on people?
-
1 minute ago, SollyOlly said:
I pretty much agree, although I hadn't thought of it that way myself. I grew up during that 'cooler' period, which (along with the CET) has affected my idea of 'normal'. Sure it's all relative, everything is of course...the modern world feels 'warm' to me, though.
I think I can remember the period from January 1980 up until late 1987, and in that period, late 1987 stands out as being one of the warmer periods.
December 79, 82 and 83 all had very mild periods, and so did the early 70s, so it wasn’t anything new. The difference is, that from 87 and beyond, you can see the more milder than average months.
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, Alderc 2.0 said:
Why, nowhere in the UK averages a max 25C for a single month of the year heathrow I think averages 23.9C in July and is the highest average monthly max temperature in the uk, those are the only other countries which is also probably don’t have anywhere averaging a max 25C in summer.
Yes they regularly reach 25C but do any of the stations average a max of 25C over a summer month?
I’m not sure to be honest. Can’t say for sure.
-
Just now, SollyOlly said:
Tis true. The seasons have gone bonkers! Absence of winter is my lament...judging by your posts, we might have both enjoyed the first half of December last year, for sure it was cold but it was also very sunny?
I still see the year of 1987 where things started to change. Just based on my own observations, during the late 80s and early 90s. But also reading Trevor Harley’s weather archive site, I noticed a steady period of cold and warmer months between 1977 until 1987. Most years in that period had at least 3-4 months of below average temps, more snowfall and so forth.
The October hurricane(yeah I know it wasn’t a hurricane, but people still refer to it as one lol) in 1987, seemed to usher in a change to warmer months and less frequency of below average months in any given calendar year.
December 1987(at the time) was remarkably mild, with a springlike Christmas Day with clear skies and sunshine. 1988 recorded only one or two months of below average temps.
So 1987/88 for me, is definitely the start of the change to where we find ourselves now.
7 minutes ago, SollyOlly said:Tis true. The seasons have gone bonkers! Absence of winter is my lament...judging by your posts, we might have both enjoyed the first half of December last year, for sure it was cold but it was also very sunny?
Yeah, I enjoyed the first half of December 2022 for its cold crisp and clear weather. It was bitterly cold, but I do like that seasonal feel.
-
1
-
-
6 minutes ago, SollyOlly said:
That sounds OK to me. Seasons that are seasonable! Instead of summer in autumn, Spring in winter etc...we don't agree on much Sunny, but maybe we do on this. Anyway, you'd love the weather here this week, hot and sunny! Even if it IS in the 'wrong' season...
Or autumn in summer lol.
The absence of true seasons
Oh yeah. My mate said it’s a dry clear type of heat, which I prefer. I’m not a fan of humid heat.
-
Just now, SollyOlly said:
That sounds OK to me. Seasons that are seasonable! Instead of summer in autumn, Spring in winter etc...we don't agree on much Sunny, but maybe we do on this. Anyway, you'd love the weather here this week, hot and sunny! Even if it IS in the 'wrong' season...
Yeah, it’s just sods law I’m in Greece right now, and lo and behold we had a storm this morning.
It was noticeably cooler here today at 22c with cloud, after 30c and blue skies yesterday, but as the evening draws in, it still feels very warm.
The hotel staff say this is normal as this is northern Greece. If we were here two weeks ago, it would have been 36-37c, and as a heat lover that’s just too hot for longer periods. It’s going back up to 28-29c on Thursday, so that’s good enough for me.
Enjoy the heat, or stay cool if it’s not your bag
-
1 minute ago, SollyOlly said:
Thanks Neves. I thought that we'd got away with it this summer...but there's a sting in the tail for heat sufferers! Absolutely agree that for those who suffer from the cold, this would be the equivalent of deep cold and snow in March.
I would say March is fairly still acceptable for snow, but come April is where I feel short changed if it’s still cold. Early to mid May is also a kick in the teeth, if daytime highs are struggling to reach 16-17c.
-
47 minutes ago, Alderc 2.0 said:
I was thinking the UK must be on of just a handful of countries in the world where not a single location averages 25C even in just one month.
Other countries I can think off are, and these are all guesses
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark
I’d assume the three Baltic states of
Latvia
Lithuania
Estonia
and then maybe
Netherlands
Belgium
One of the absolute best countries for heat haters.
Latvia has better summers than the U.K. They regularly hit 25c between late May and mid August, but some summers can be changeable.
They seem to have less cloudy summers compared to the U.K, but the upshot is, they get snow every winter.
It has been declining a little bit since December 1981.-
2
-
Autumn 2023
in Spring Weather Discussion
Posted
I think it was December 87 that started the change.