Sunny76
-
Posts
8,316 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
4
Content Type
Forums
Blogs
Gallery
Events
Learn About Weather and Meteorology
Community guides
Posts posted by Sunny76
-
-
3 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
I wish the CET would go where the sun doesn’t shine
Coming to cinemas this Halloween : The Stats! - the law of averages.
-
3 minutes ago, Weather-history said:
Its all relative, its way above the likes of 1954
No way can this summer can be compared to the stinkers of yesteryear
Oh come on!
It doesn’t need to be a 1954, or 1986. The truth is, it’s still on the side of poor for many people. Not much sunshine and not a lot of dry days.
-
39 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
I honestly can’t even be bothered to google to find out what obtuse means.
Maybe because certain people keep minimising peoples experiences of 2 poor summer months and that’s a shame when people really suffer from SAD during poor weather, i think I feel sorry for those who really struggle during poor weather, myself to a point but I’m resilient. It’s like minimising their struggles and making them feel delusional
We’ve had 1 stunning summer months, 2 rather poor ones. Anyway I feel September will be better so that’s a positive
Have you ever gone into the heat haters thread?
Even a 2 day period of 25c gives them nightmares.
-
1
-
1
-
-
36 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
I honestly can’t even be bothered to google to find out what obtuse means.
Maybe because certain people keep minimising peoples experiences of 2 poor summer months and that’s a shame when people really suffer from SAD during poor weather, i think I feel sorry for those who really struggle during poor weather, myself to a point but I’m resilient. It’s like minimising their struggles and making them feel delusional
We’ve had 1 stunning summer months, 2 rather poor ones. Anyway I feel September will be better so that’s a positive
Remember it’s those stats that count!
-
22 minutes ago, cheese said:
I don't know why we have to keep repeating this over and over again. It feels like certain people are being intentionally obtuse.
No, I don’t know why people keep ignoring just how crap the peak summer was.
It was cloudy for days on end.
Wave the stats flag and ‘it was the best June ever’ all you want. It won’t change the general consensus, that Summer 23 was on the poor side. I know it wasn’t all terrible for 3 months, but there was a big chunk of 7 weeks where the weather was really dire.
-
4
-
-
1 minute ago, CreweCold said:
It worries me because the CFS usually throws out dream charts at such long range...but they are hard to come by at the moment. If the CFS can't even throw out decent runs then maybe we really aren't in a great place lol.
Winter is still a long way off. Anything can happen, and we need to get through Autumn first.
-
5
-
-
25 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
Exactly, it’s the only reason the overall stats aren’t showing just how dire it’s been since after June
It’s tiring isn’t it, having to continuously go over it. They keep wheeling out the brilliant June.
It was nice, but it wasn’t enough to ‘save summer’ lol.
-
3
-
-
25 minutes ago, Weather-history said:
Manchester Summer Index
1976 301
1995 298
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
2018 272
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
2022 261
1947 255
1933 251
1901 249
1921 249
2003 247
1925 246
1996 245
1935 243
1994 240
1934 238
1940 238
2021 238
1941 236
1970 235
1969 234
1973 234
1999 234
1997 232
1990 229
1917 228
1926 227
2005 224
1905 223
1932 223
1945 223
1967 223
1977 223
1914 222
1992 222
1908 220
2023 217
June saved the summer
2023 is way down.
5 minutes ago, cheese said:I would rather have had June's weather in July and August. A hot June will quickly be forgotten if the rest of summer is mediocre.
Yeah, as good as June was, it was forgotten by many by late July.
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, Don said:
Winter 2015/16 also had a Super Nino, combined with a W-QBO which would have overridden most other teleconnections. An average or cool September by no means guarantees a cold winter, but increases the chance over a very warm one.
Exactly!
This isn't about cool/cold Septembers though.
I was stating a fact that some cool Septembers don’t always lead to a colder winter.
-
2 hours ago, CreweCold said:
But what we’re people expecting? To get a solid 3 months of wall to wall summer is unicorn territory.
The sun shone in June at a time of peak daylight.
August has been far from a write off.
I just detect an undertone of ‘well we didn’t see 38c so it just won’t do’ and I had a feeling that’s all some were hankering after from the get go.
If someone gave me the option of a near record cold December followed by a mild, wet January and average February I’d bite their hand off for it.
No, you’re wrong.
I will use summer if 1983 and 1984 as an example of what people would expect from a decent summer. And both of those were 40 years ago, and back during a time when you would get the so called poor summers. We still get them now, but we should expect a decent summer like 83 or 84 at least every 3-4 years.
Nobody is asking for 35c plus days. Most people are hoping for longer spells of settled weather between 23-27c, with maybe the odd few days here and day of 28-30c. I think 10-12 days across all the three summer months wouldn’t be too much to ask for, with a cool rainy interlude to last for 2-4 days in between during June to August.
What the heat haters seem to conveniently ignore is, the lack of pleasant sunny periods of warm summer weather, which were absent after the latter part of June(yes June was lovely, but it wasn’t perfect to begin with), a couple of hot sunny days in early July, then a long grey miserable period of weather all the way through July until mid August. It was relentlessly cool and dull, with many days feeling more autumnal than high summer.
So, while you and other coldies might argue, we should be grateful for the warm sunny June, it’s not enough when the following 2 months have offered so little in the way of average sunny dry weather, to enable people to enjoy outdoor activities, as opposed to being restricted to sitting in a dull tea room or outdated amusement arcade, or forced to sitting in a pub, because the weather is inclement.
The above criteria may very well, suit people like yourself and other heat hating folk, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But for me personally, it’s been utterly depressing to have to endure weeks on end of grey clag, rainy spells of weather, and having to stay indoors or wrap up warm when outdoors, due to the poor high summer weather we had to tolerate.
I feel sorry for families who couldn’t afford to go abroad this summer and had their U.K. breaks in July and August, because it’s been close to abysmal.
Anyway, hope I chose my words carefully without coming across ‘provocative’ as someone stated in another post.
-
5
-
-
25 minutes ago, markyo said:
I for one have been very grateful for this Summer, whilst the World has burnt, countless damage done to the wildlife and livelihoods of so many, lives lost on a scale i fear will only get worse, our little Island was spared the misery. I know not to everyone's taste but i am very happy we didn't have to go through what so many thousand's have done. It must have been horrific.
It depends where you were in Europe. Not everywhere was baking hot. Iberia usually suffers from intense heat at times.
Places like the Baltics, and other parts of Central Europe had a relatively warm summer, with a few storms here and there.
-
2 hours ago, Freeze said:
Warmer, drier and sunnier for a lot of the south east, this should hopefully quiet down the few posters constantly moaning how bad it was, although they'll probably still argue against it.
Not so sure about the sunnier bit. Most days were dull during July and only the second half of august had some sunnier days.
You can’t polish a turd.
-
2
-
-
22 minutes ago, markyo said:
I for one have been very grateful for this Summer, whilst the World has burnt, countless damage done to the wildlife and livelihoods of so many, lives lost on a scale i fear will only get worse, our little Island was spared the misery. I know not to everyone's taste but i am very happy we didn't have to go through what so many thousand's have done. It must have been horrific.
Stop being overdramatic. The world didn’t burn lol.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, Don said:
Me too definitely!
Yes, it's a shame March wasn't a cold month instead of April!
March was still chilly at times, but in all honesty, march is usually when I start looking for less cold weather and the first hints of some nice warmish days into the high teens on the odd occasion.
1 hour ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:I personally don't go for this "a warm September means a mild winter" theory. Winter is still three months away and anything can happen in that time. Plus, it's very early days as to whether or not we'll have a warm September. No doubt that the first half of the month will be warmer than average, but that doesn't mean that the second half of the month will be also.
Yeah, sometimes it does happen, but I can give at least two occasions where a cold September led to a very mild winter.
1994 was one example, and 1992 was also another one.
-
1
-
-
25 minutes ago, Addicks Fan 1981 said:
The warm Atlantic I think ensured the summer wasn't a total flop.
You say that, but the summer was pretty bad. June was good, but July and August were mostly poor. Mid to late August saw a slight improvement, I’ll give you that.
-
To be fair, I’ll take a winter 2020/21 again. That seemed to have enough variety for me, despite not much snow. Lots of chilly and coldish days, plus some dry crisp periods during the second half of December. Some nice sunny days in the latter half of February.
-
3
-
-
13 hours ago, damianslaw said:
Yes probably need a major volcanic eruption to cause global cooling. Not had one since 1991.
We really don’t need years like 85-87 again.
They were horrible summers.
-
1
-
-
4 minutes ago, wende123 said:
Another truly dismal day here - grey, random drizzle and around 13-14C, more like October really.
In fact, apart from a brief warmer spell earlier this month, this sums up both July and August
Some rain here and there doesn't bother me much but the unusual lack of sunshine for two months is really depressing
Yeah, I hear you.
But, don’t worry, the stats still tell us it was warm lol.
The lack of sunny days really shows how bad it was this summer.
-
5
-
-
1 minute ago, stainesbloke said:
Summer scores are a bit more difficult for me as I spend time between the UK and Czechia. So I’ll rate both countries. Not completely fair as I wasn’t in either country for a whole month.
UK (Ashford and Heathrow, both in west London)
June - 8/10. Excellent first 3 weeks with lots of warm sunshine. Some claggy mornings and week 4 went downhill.
July - 1/10. Grey, windy, often cool and wet. Vile.
August - 5/10. Poor until mid-month, then a more settled spell with lovely warm sunshine. Let down by the last few days.
Total - 14/30.Czechia (Nymburk, Central Bohemia)
June - 9/10. A generally beautiful, warm, sunny month. Quite cool evenings and nights, though.
July - 9/10. A couple of days of uncomfortable extreme heat, otherwise plenty of lovely weather with some impressive thunderstorms.
August - 7/10 Plenty of generally warm sunshine and some more severe thunderstorms. A short unsettled cooler spell in week 3, then some days of very hot weather that wasn’t very pleasant. A chilly and very wet last few days, also unpleasant.Total - 25/30
I would take the Czech summer anytime over the U.K. one.
-
5
-
-
2 hours ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:
I actually despise the term 'Indian summer' as it is used far too frequently by the UK media and has lost its original meaning. A little bit of warm weather in September is all perfectly normal, with even the poorest of Septembers having warm spells. A true Indian Summer happens after the first frost of the season and September is far too early for that.
I'm not a fan of Americanisms anyway.
You are very fortunate that you got over your fear of spiders. I can't imagine that I ever will, though you never know!
I also hate Americanisms. ‘Baller’ ‘what up’ ‘for real’.
That’s the language for fools.
-
2
-
-
17 hours ago, CryoraptorA303 said:
Translation: A few days in July and August didn't feel warm in my subjective experience, and due to my bias I am remembering these days more than the rest of the summer, which was otherwise average or in the case of June and some of August, above average in terms of temperature.
I am not going to argue about preferences of subjective experiences in this thread, or anything about this summer in detail as it is a winter thread after all, but we can't ignore the stats. Overall, June was the hottest on record by some margin thanks to the extremely warm nights and consistently high daytime temperatures nationwide, many nights in July were very mild and the second half of August has been solidly warm and on the dry side. Dismissing the actual stats because you remember a few days not being warm is lunacy. We can argue about how well the stats reflect what's actually happening on the ground until the cows come home, but those stats exist and they exist for a reason.
Well, hopefully not "never", but it is certainly getting less and less common.
I can't help but think you actually like this and are happy to see real winter disappear from the UK, though, judging from your posts here and your general attitude to weather in this country. You are way too enthusiastic about us losing our winters, imo.
I didn’t say anything about wanting a mild winter lol.
And the summer had a number of days that felt chilly, not just one of two. Clearly you are someone who thinks daytime highs above 20c are warm or hot. Many people don’t feel hot until it hits the mid 20s.
Case closed.
-
29 minutes ago, al78 said:
I find 27C too warm. My house heats up quickly and doesn't cool down much at night so leads to sleep disruption and daytime fatigue.
25-27c is acceptable for a daytime summer high. For me, this is where summer 23 was lacking. Most days stuck in the 20-22c bracket, so while warm at times when the sun did shine, it wasn’t warm enough to enjoy the nice summery evenings, while sitting outside in the garden or dining Al fresco.
Low 20s doesn’t cut it for me, but the flip side is a better nights sleep. 27c however, is the sweet spot for just being hot enough, where as 30c is where it starts to become too hot(although I can still handle it), and 22-23c isn’t warm enough.
-
2
-
-
12 hours ago, Don said:
Thing of the past.....
Yeah it’s never happening again. It’s mild from now on.
35 minutes ago, Dorsetbred said:I could have sworn that the Met O youtube video this week suggested that the summer overall will end up a degree or so higher than the average.
It didn’t feel warm.
-
1
-
-
18 hours ago, BlueDomeSky said:
Yes, it is crap today, solid grey ceiling and cool-feeling.
Hopefully there will be some of that warm sunshine in September!
You speak my language. This weather is utter dung for late august lol.
-
1
-
Summer 2023 chat
in Spring Weather Discussion
Posted
Yeah I did know that, but thanks again for reminding me.
I think Never Screamer outlined just how the summer will be remembered. Coming outside your house everyday to see grey cloudy skies for days on end. Who’s going to even pay attention to stats, when it’s just so miserable and lacking in anything summery.
Oh don’t do that. You might get banned for 7 days.