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9 hours ago, Greyhound81 said:
I don't think you can call it a pathetic excuse for a summer when we have had one of the best Junes on record. We have had better summers but plenty worse (2007-8, 2011-12 etc).
Can we stop wheeling out that old chestnut. Yes, it was a sunny warm June, but it wasn’t for large areas of eastern England, and didn’t really get going until the 8th.
Yes, it was a lovely month, but the poor weather of 6/7 weeks that followed really brought down the summer in my opinion.
June feels like a distant memory, after all the grey cloudy muck of July and first half of August. Recent week or two has been a bit better with warm sunny days, but it’s still not enough to save what has been a dreadful period of high summer weather.-
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1 hour ago, Terminal Moraine said:
August 1986 here was comfortably the coldest since I began keeping records in 1963 with a mean max' of 14.8c and a mean min' of 8.9c. The warmest day of the month was the 14th with a max' of 18.3c and it was one of only 3 Augusts not to reach 20c, the other two being 1985 and 1992 with with 19.6c and 19.8c respectively. Only 1 day reached 15.0c after the 17th and just to compare with Reef's records above the maximums here from the 25th to the 30th were.
25th; 11.7c
26th; 12.4c
27th; 12.3c
28th; 13.7c
29th; 12.7c
30th; 12.8c.
It wasn't a particularly wet month here until the arrival of ex-hurricane Charley with just 42.0 mm of rain up to the 24th, this was then followed by 78.1 mm from Charley and the month ended with 1.8 mm more rain than in 1985 despite the earlier year having 27 rain days ( 0.2 mm or more ) compared to 18 in 1986.
With regard to the temperature in particular it really does seem as if large chunks of the 1970s and 80s were a completely different climate to what we have now.
The change came in late 1987. Months from December 87 and beyond, recorded more milder than average months compared to before the October storm of 87. Early 87 still recorded below average temps, and between 77 or so, many months were below average up until 1987.
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1 hour ago, stainesbloke said:
Criminals indeed.
I remember those metal windows with single panes, in really cold weather there would be frost on the inside
My nose would get so cold at night, had to have loads of blankets to keep warm. Thanks for jolting my bad memory!
It wasn’t that long ago. My old family flat was still like that into the early 2000s.
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3 hours ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:
Issue with the SE this year was the Spring, primarily. May, and even the latter half of April, almost brings an "extension" of Summer in this region with numerous sunny days in the high teens and low 20s. Not unusual for May to see above 25c days too. We lost all of that this year. There was quite literally zero warmth, at all, until the warm spell landed in June (which in of itself came about a week later for us than everyone more west). We didn't have any of the low 20c, sunny days that the western parts of the UK had from mid-May onwards. And then just under 3 weeks later, that warm spell was completely transformed with the dross of July, which lasted (more or less consistently) for about 6-7 weeks.
So as a period/window of potential for "warm and sunny weather" it simply has not been good, at all, when viewed holistically. Regardless of how much that warm spell in June brings up the "stats" to be average. For my region, in that period/window for true summery weather (which i'd consider May, June, July and August), it was just 3 weeks (ish) in June, and 5/6 days last week in August. And that one hot day in early July (the 7th, I think it was). That was quite literally it.
Think there were a couple of warm sunny days before 18th August, but yeah you’re right. It’s basically been a handful of warm to hot sunny days in August, and not much else.
13 minutes ago, midlandsun said:Well, tonight is the first time I've thought summer has well and truly gone for the year, not like we've had one
. Pitch black outside at 20:45. Quite looking forward to autumn and winter now to be honest and forget about this god awful summer.
It was bad wasn’t it. Even though some on here love to point out it was the 24th warmest on record.
That only means to be, that at least 10-15 summers were much better than this sorry excuse of a summer for sunshine and warm temps.
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3 hours ago, philglossop said:
August 1986 - dreadful month. We had a holiday at home that year in Cornwall and it just never got going, remember it being pretty cool throughout.
Then Hurricane Charley remains came along and washed out the August Bank Holiday. It was a dreadful day, we'd gone to Torquay but came home early as you couldn't get out the car for the rain! Came home and (funny how you remember some events) watched Pat Sudgen drive over a cliff and die in Emmerdale Farm.
Lol, I don’t remember that, but I remember Jackie killing himself by accident with a shotgun in 1989
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22 minutes ago, reef said:
As it stands, only the joint 24th warmest in 365 years. So, yes not warm at all.
Its the equivalent of getting a winter the same as 1978/79 and not calling it cold.
This summer wasn’t warm. It was below par for sunshine, and wetter than normal.
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3 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
Torquay has it's lovely parts but spoilt by some places and people, seem to attract some unsavoury characters that's for sure
It’s the chavvy part of Devon I think. Teignmouth looked nicer, but we didn’t have time to explore that area. Maybe next time .
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This was the thunderstorm from Saturday afternoon.
12 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:I think the south east had it even worse than us oddly enough and you are usually warmer and sunnier than most places in the south west in summer, I agree, Summer 2023 was poor and so was Spring 2023, a real slog generally apart from mid may to the last week of June.
Dawlish was lovely by the way. Not too far from your neck of the woods.
Not a fan of Torquay to be honest.
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38 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
For my location and many others I have got a real fear summer is going to come out as average for sun, rainfall and temps might be at least 1.5c higher than average for max temps given how lovely June was. I've done a very rough calculation in my head and overall rainfall, sunshine look about average, temp above, June has really bumped things up from what was a very poor July and slightly below average August....talk about gaslit lol
Using the 1991-2010 averages
For my location
June:
Max Temperature average is 20c, we averaged 23.5 (3.5c higher)
Sunshine average is 194.7, we had 264 hours of sunshine
Rainfall average is 53.8. we received 13.6mm
July
Max temp average is 21.8c, we averaged 20.5 (1.3 below average)
Sunshine average is 193.8, we had 143.6 hours
Rainfall average is 48.2. we received 99.2mm
August
Max Temperature average is 21.6c, we are currently averaging 21.2 but will be lower than that given the forecasted temps for the last few days of august (0.4c below so far)
Sunshine average is 171.8, so far we are on 143.8 and I doubt we will reach 150 hours
Rainfall average is 64.1, we have currently received 38mm with more on the way for the last day of August
Just goes to show averages don’t tell the whole experience unless they are extreme one way or the other
No other way to slice a turd pie. Summer 23 was poor. The June was lovely, but July failed miserably, and early August was fairly bleak.
August has seen an improvement, but it’s not enough to tip the balance back to acceptable for me, regardless of what the stats say.
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51 minutes ago, Scorcher said:
This is total nonsense and scaremongering by the media/establishment. For the vast majority of people it is/was a cold. Nothing more.
Some people did struggle more than others afterwards but that's not unique to Covid. Post-viral fatigue has always been a thing. It's the reason some people take months to get over glandular fever for example.
As someone who works in the mental health field, I can say firmly that the effects of the restrictions were far, far worse than Covid itself. Especially on younger people, many of whom have really suffered from the massive disruption.
The restrictions were necessary at the time, given the fact we knew nothing about the severity of the virus.
More people would have become sick, if more of us were going to work in the office.
8 hours ago, AderynCoch said:Well that was something else. The August 2017 MCS/derecho was incredible but I think this might top it. To think I was moaning about the lack of storms this year.
I took too much footage to show all of it here. I'll just leave you with these:
Good looking storm. Love it
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10 hours ago, SollyOlly said:
I think that you're trying to be provocative (successfully!), but just a quick point. We haven't had a 'cold' summer, I can't remember the last one that we did have. Neither did we have a 'cold' winter last year (if only the first half of December had carried on!). As another poster has expressed it very well...if we get a front-loaded winter with a December as anomalously cold as June was hot, and then average/ slightly below average after that, many coldies will be very content.
It might not have been a cold summer, but it certainly wasn’t a warm one either.
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11 hours ago, Don said:
I didn't think summer was great, apart from June. I would prefer mild and dry in winter to mild and wet, but wouldn't want either.
Coldies get plenty of stick during mild winters when they complain about the lack of cold and more so than people who moan about poor weather during the summer I would say!
I don’t agree with that. Plenty of people moan about the lack of cold even when it is cold. Unless it’s -1c with snow, the coldies will complain regardless.
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11 minutes ago, Coldilocks said:
Most of our winters have been mild and it always leads to the worst types of weather. It's either 13c and cloudy or very wet and windy.
Most of our winters have always been mild. It’s a default set up with the Atlantic to the west, and being surrounded by the North Sea and English Channel.
We probably will see some cold weather at some point.
57 minutes ago, Don said:That's like me saying I don't know why a cool summer is always a bad thing!
You midies get your way 9 times out of 10, so no surprise!
Borefest!!
A good chunk of you were saying how this summer has been acceptable and ‘a proper English summer’.
I prefer a cold crisp season, but if it ends up mild, I would like it to be dry.
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2 hours ago, markyo said:
So a cold summer is not always a bad thing?
A cold summer is a bad thing after a chilly winter and spring.
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3 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
It’s been mostly cloudy here in Exeter with some sunshine, less than I’d hoped but at least it’s not raining. It’s been feeling very cool in the evenings…hoping for a warm high over us in September and October
I have faith we will see another spell of 26-28c, for a few days sometime in the middle of September. And maybe a few days in the low 20s with sunshine in early October, before we take a tumble into proper autumn.
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The last week of August is where it really does start to close in. Not just the daylight, but also this is usually where the daytime maxes start to gradually drop. Even in the warmest summers, temps usually start to take a tumble around the last week of the month.
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4 minutes ago, cheeky_monkey said:
1991-92 Springs to mind here
Yeah and 79-80 was a dry mild one.
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I don’t know why a mild winter is always a bad thing. A dry mild one would be ok, if we can’t have a cold crisp or snowy one.
For me it’s the rain that really makes things depressing for long periods of time.
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14 minutes ago, stainesbloke said:
Fingers crossed for you mate. The chilly gloomy wet crap has reached here. Happy that we booked a week in Spain later in September
Have fun mate. September and even early October is still summer in the Med regions, despite the nights gradually cooling off in the second half of September. Sometimes a good time to catch an overnight storm as well
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20 minutes ago, TheOgre said:
Why is it always cold at this time of year?! Well I don’t know about always but it seems to be a common theme for the last few days of August to regularly be colder than average. Last year was warm but 2021 and 2020 were really dull and chilly around now and I remember 2015 and 2012 were really cold in late August.
Yeah the east was chilly in late August 2020, while we stayed in Reading. August bank holiday in 2021 was similar.
2022 bucked the trend and was nice and warm, although it was becoming cooler by this stage. I remember a few thunderstorms overnight during this time last year.
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3 hours ago, SunnyG said:
But according to this website, we shouldn't be wishing to be elsewhere in Europe. I certainly do. They can keep this cr*ppy weather, I'll have whatever the Greeks are having.
Thankfully I’m heading to Greece next weekend. Hopefully will be enjoying some high 20s at least and some very warm nights.
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3 hours ago, laddie said:
Rubbish summer here carrying on from a cool north sea dominated spring, June was pretty cool until the last third, July one of the worst in my lifetime August tried to make amends but the damage has been done, low max temperatures, cool nights wet July, so got to mark this one 3 out of 10 hopefully September will deliver as it often does in the east
Yeah, Summer 23 was definitely a bad one. For anyone who wanted normal sunny weather with nice warm evenings, well, they were in very short supply.
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47 minutes ago, Addicks Fan 1981 said:
Summers of both 1997 and 2009 were both niño driven and both had very wet months in them. This year has been no different to those two I have mentioned.
Both ninos lead to different winters. 97 was mild and 09 was cold.
32 minutes ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:Are you implying that the only people here should be those who want to *purely* use statistics like the CET as the barometer of a season?
Or, should it actually be, that we recognise the reality that weather conditions comprise more factors than what averages stats can show us. This July being a perfect example. We can sit here until the cows come home saying how it was an average temp month. But those average temps mean didly squat when nearly every day was marred by thick overcast, chilly breezes and a massive amount of rain.
The stats argument again lol.
It means nothing, unless you have some nice warm sunny weather. A mild month with constant dull weather is going to be remembered as poor.
He won’t listen to you Absence lol.
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1 minute ago, B87 said:
Heathrow's mean temperature in December 2010 was 1.2c (-4.8c).
Only December 2015 was more abnormal, with a mean of 11.3c (+5.3c).
Given the choice, I’ll take a December 2010, but the advantage of a 2015 is needed to use to heating slightly less often.
The poor summer haters club
in Spring Weather Discussion
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I have a co worker who complained it was too hot last week, during our mini hot snap of 25-27c.
I told him to do one lol.