hi... ive pm'd you torz, but if you cant read it.. no probs mate, i knew your intentions, sorry if my reple sounded harsh.. http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif oposing views woody?... i hate the cold, whilst im in a minority here, id be more then happy if we never had another frost ever again. today is gorgeous! low cloud, cool temps, no wind, gloomy... i love it! i can work, detect, be outside and feel totaly comfortable! i like the mists, the darkness... its a weather type that i enjoy... but in summer... the more sunshine the better! 30c plus is heaven..