1947s coming

What happens if the models are not sending things far enough south yet and the high to the south is much flatter . The breakdown is still certainly fl and don’t be surprised if everything is corrected south nearer the time. The models continue to have most of the pv over to the east which is half the battle. The high to south that’s been show could end up been further west and eventually move towards Greenland. Can we see a slow backdown from a mild breakdown through this week, I wouldn’t bet against it . The cold air is in place expect more surprises this week and definitely more of a fight from the cold. Better viewing by tomorrow nights runs hmm

Breakdown looks a cert now ? So the models have fl nailed down do they , I would say anything over Wednesday isn’t nailed down.plus the cold that is now in place might prove much harder to actually move than the models think and show. Interesting week coming up and more chances of snowfalls in many areas . It really wouldn’t surprise me as the time for the breakdown draws closes the models show the cold air sticking over the U.K.,and lows possibly sliding into the cold air could be snow makers. Possibly the coldest night of the spell so far coming up for many tonight to - double digits, I see the south even getting snow at present to

While ever the models have most of the vortex over the east , we are in the game in my opinion. The trend in summer was higher pressure,and record heat ,this trend is now here for winter but to the north , east and west of us and possibly it will bring record cold . Already some big temp diff for the Uk from over 40c to below -10 in some places

Not sure the models have the rest of the week nailed by any means yet . The cold air is in place and surprises can pop up out of nowhere , just take the 7 cm in Yorkshire last night and this morning as a good example. I am not sure the mild air and full breakdown will happen possibly just a blip and a reload from the north east.The cold air might be much harder to actually shift and as the time comes closer watch the models back down. Certainly not the usual start to winter and possibly the coldest night so far to the spell could be coming tonight. Let’s not forget to not many months ago it was plus 40c now some have a covering of snow and had ice days , oh and winter has just started really. It’s nice to have to look to fl for milder air and a breakdown to, definitely more twists and turns to come

Get the cold in place and watch for the surprises to pop up . Still going in the north of Sheffield around 5 cm on the top of the bin. This was happening yesterday to but just not enough energy to the showers. Definitely mad to look over Yorkshire and see the area that’s hardly moving to.If this lasts and freezes tonight could be below -8. It’s still certainly nice having to look into fl for mild weather and a breakdown

Yep same here

This wasn’t shown earlier hmm , let’s hope it can actually deliver something the wind is slowly changing to as some have said . It could get interesting from later tonight maybe

Watch out for the cows

A few snow symbols back on the forecast for later tonight , let’s see as the temperature starts to drop again

Light snow in north Sheffield

They are trying hard to get over the hills and there could be a bigger area trying to make its way over definitely potential

Another few flakes overnight , and a hard frost , can this bump into the colder air can it make it far enough inland

I am pretty sure this cold spell isn’t over yet?let’s see what next week brings possibly Wednesday onwards a chance of snow and no real breakdown insight. Possibly there could be a few showers later tonight and tomorrow for some parts of Yorkshire to. Cold and ice days definitely better than wet and mild , oh winter has only just started to

Proper snow now and sticking , it’s almost like it’s trying to set a streamer up

Snowing/ ice balls in north Sheffield instantly sticking

It certainly does as they come inland to , it might get interesting for a few hours already been a little snow in the wind . Next week a northeasterly could be back hopefully set a few streamers up

To you post above I would say the showers do have the energy to reach us but can they move inland.I think we might get a few flakes blowing around. There looks a chance of snow Wednesday onwards next week and surprise’s could pop up with the cold air in place

The cold is definitely in place , can the fronts continue to hold and not break up and possibly spread in land a bit . It would be nice to get a little northeast to the wind direction possibly set up streamers that are not yet shown . Definitely a interesting start to winter

It will change closer to the actual time , but it’s now negatively tilted and could slide under the block. If so that could allow the cold from the east to move west , the high to move into scandi and start to pull the vortex chuck ready to drop down to the east and feed from it. In my opinion Wednesday the models might have this sorted , let’s get the cold in first then watch the models change again . It really wouldn’t surprise me at all if we have a repeat of summer but now the blocking is to the north. Summer gave us record heat , are we ready for possibly record breaking cold. It’s certainly not the usual start and winter set up we are used to or the models

Yep it’s definitely getting more negatively tilted, can the high behind build up to Greenland. I still don’t think the models will have this sorted until midweek, get the cold in place and see what follows certainly interesting viewing

Yes very nice to see and even better it’s not at day 10

Never say never , get the cold in place and see what follows.We have had record high summer temps , I certainly wouldn’t bet against record cold winter temperatures coming. Wednesday onwards the models could have this sorted , but if streamers start to appear models might not pick them up until just hours before. Certainly makes for interesting viewing,and there could very well be upgrades as the cold actually starts to filter in proper next week, mind you snow has already fallen this weekend in places

Until the ecm comes out and it moves everything south again by Wednesday the models might have this sorted out.plus once the real cold air starts to filter in proper the models could well change again.certainly a interesting start to winter, the atmosphere has been seeded, let’s watch the high pressure cells grow. Very possibly the blocks will be around just like they were in summer, which if they fall right might just produce record cold , like the record heat in summer was caused by them

Just wait for the streamers to start to set up next week as the easterly flow really kicks in,models won’t pick up on these until last minute either. Fi still firmly 3 days possibly less , get the cold in place and blocks and then possibly upgrades can occur as I posted last night . The process is already underway to,our weather is now moving east to west. Record high temps in summer by blocking highs , do we have the same but to the north for winter.certainly not a normal start to winter, possibly by Wednesday the models could have a much better idea on things.it’s really nice to see the charts have actually come down from over day 10 viewing only and there could actually be snow as early as this weekend. The streamers are what I will be looking out for from midweek onward, which models won’t pick up until possibly hours before, winter is coming