dryfie

A note of caution…has there been anything official from Met? This may just be an unofficial report from somebody’s Met.are.us toy weather station.

Achfary does indeed, 28/12/2019 IIRC. It's the site office for the Duke of Westminster's estate office in the village. The site isn't automatic like most reports we receive. The readings are taken manually at 0900 each day, hence the delay in the report being received. Reckon they'll be painting another phone box as celebration (there's one of our members who will know what I mean).

I seem to remember reading the Met conclusion after the Achfary UK Dec record a few years ago. It wasn’t a true foehn as we know it; The air wasn’t lifted from sea level over the mountains as it approached, it was already very warm at height. Once it reached the mountains it was mixed down by turbulence from the strong winds. Only saying what I read, not knowledge based!

With regard to the name of this thread; overnight output was suggesting absolute maxima of 15c for NE Scotland today (particularly Moray), with cooler weather to the NW. In the event it has been only around 10c in the NE whilst a new UK record approaching 20c has been reported in the NW Highlands. Any thoughts on how the models could have been so far out (they know about foehns)?

Don’t forget that although official stations, they still need to be verified. Presumably checking accuracy of thermometry, exposure etc. Also, this is the same area as Achfary, site of UK highest recorded December temperature (18.7). Once their daily readings are received they could be higher.

Problem is that it's only around 9c in the NE of Scotland. These are all in the far NW: Kinlochewe 19.2 Cassley 17.2 Resallach 17.1 Loch Glasgarnoch 17.0 Achnagart 17.0

New Scots date record - 16.4 at Kinlochewe has exceeded the previous 15.0 at the same location in 1993. Several other official sites around the same readings, with several more hours remaining. Edit - UK date record

New Scots date record - 16.4 at Kinlochewe has exceeded the previous 15.0 at the same location in 1993. Several other official sites around the same readings, with several more hours remaining.

My quote button seems to have done a runner, but to answer earlier queries.......I had to chuckle during Isha when the film crews turned up at Salsburgh village to see what conditions were like at this apparent extreme wind speed location. But if you pinpoint the reporting station on a map you'll see that it's not nearby. In fact it's up high on a hill a mile or two from the village, at the foot of the transmission mast visible from the M8. Not high enough to be called a mountain station, but certainly not typical of area villages.

The infamous backdrop scene of the electrified line Ardrossan/Saltcoats in a storm, being widely used by TV forecasts today.

My family weather 23/1/1990 7pm Ayrshire Central birth. Unseasonal thunderstorm caused power cut which cut the mains. Standby didn’t service the lifts, so mum carried upstairs on a stretcher for Caesarian. Same mum and daughter to the Playhouse this afternoon for Swan Lake.

Many thanks for those. As you say…..classic, with an additional boost from the anticyclonic curvature over the top of the ridge giving stronger winds than suggested?

Eyes now to the SW, with gales and much milder temperatures. Day max temperature records for rest of the month: 20th 13.3 Achnashellach 1970 21st 13.9 Onich 1937 22nd 14.5 Aboyne 2020 23rd 15.0 Girvan 2008 & Lossiemouth 1960 24th 16.5 Achnagart 2016 (whole UK record) 25th 15.8 Dunbar 2016 (whole UK record) 26th 18.3 Aboyne 2003 (whole UK record for date and month) 27th 16.7 Onich 1958 28th 15.0 Kinlochewe 1993 29th 15.5 Lossiemouth 1981 (whole UK record) 30th 14.2 Poolewe 2009 31st 14.8 Dyce 2007 I'd love to see the 26/1/2003 surface chart if anyone has the means?

I love you! I get so annoyed when folk talk of “blizzard like conditions” rather than not including the “like”. If conditions are “blizzard like” then it’s a blizzard!

Radiosonde measurements updates: Lerwick 15/2300 Nil 16/1200 Surface -2.3 850mb -10.9 and dew point -12.0 Stornoway Neither received Albemarle (on border near Corbridge) 15/2300 Surface -2.7 850mb -9.3 and dew point -19.3 16/1100 Surface 0.6 850mb -5.9 and dew point -6.5 All of these missing soundings could be having an effect on quality of forecasts?

Snow depths at official stations 1100: Lerwick 17cm, Altnaharra 12cm, Dyce 12cm, Wick 10cm, Stornoway 8cm, Loch Glasgarnoch 7cm, Kirkwall 5cm, Aboyne 4cm, Tulloch Bridge 2cm, Aviemore 2cm. Don't have figures, but 8cm at Stornoway is probably not common. 3cm here pretty much as forecast on ITV Border, but much less than BBC Scotland.

Update: 14/2300 Surface -0.9 850mb -10.5 & dew point -13.0 15/1100 Surface -1.9 850mb -11.3 & dew point -17.4

Yes, getting near. Lerwick radiosonde measurements: 12/2300 Surface 5.6 850mb -2.7 13/1100 Surface 3.2 850mb -8.1 & 100% 13/2300 Surface 0.6 850mb -8.7 & 100% 14/1100 Surface 0.2 850mb -8.9 & 100% TTAA 14111 03005 99997 00208 34013 00054 ///// ///// 92676 03528 34524 85338 08900 34526 70814 18756 00522 50524 32764 34519 40677 44963 34023 30867 51769 32534 25984 54773 32033 20126 57974 31536 15305 60974 32037 10554 67969 31534 88209 57974 31535 88100 67969 31534 77999 31313 44108 81116==

There’s an apparent problem regarding awareness of the difference between pressure thickness and heights, making this onzin.

All - A day or so ago there was a message on the MAD thread calling a model prediction of cold weather ‘carnage’. Knowing something about the subject I replied that the word shouldn’t be used unless the meaning was known. I noticed that my message disappeared a little while later, and I’ve since received a message of admonishment, informing me that ‘carnage’ could be slang, and anyway it wasn’t my business. There doesn’t seem to be any method of actually cancelling my netweather membership, so I’ll be signing out this evening for the last time.

Think the power station chimney ties that down as north end of Lockerbie?

Took a while to happen, but inevitable.......with a current max of around 7c I think it's safe to say this has been the first day this autumn when we've failed to get into double figures, though we've had some close calls. Looks as if it's the same story nationwide, even on the islands.

Another really weird day! Hard frost last night, but lunchtime everybody in town in summer attire (12c). A week ago the outside toms were still ripening well, but spent this afternoon clearing dead plants from tunnel, despite cover and fleece. Chillis and peppers were already indoors to be safe. Surprised to see cape gooseberries still ok. More cloud around now, so perhaps less cold?

Fair old Kintyre Dangler today!

Testament to the strength of our sun that, even at this time of the year , in only 13c, if you find shelter from the admittedly light wind, it can be lovely. An afternoon of unbroken sunshine in shorts and T Shirts. Incongruous to be putting fleece out and bringing plants in for the winter!