Rob 79812010

January 22

Naughty Met O. Saying 'still a low chance' implies that's what they've been saying all along. They haven't!!!

January 21

10 hours ago, Joe Snow said:

All eyes on Storm Isha tomorrow, winds already getting up here but winding the clock back to 20th Jan 2021, 3 yrs ago tonight and Storm Christoph’s heavy rain turned to very heavy snow over the region leaving 8-9cm here in S Cheshire in just a few hrs still the best heavy rain- snow event I’ve ever seen locally

Let’s hope some cold, snowy weather returns for February

Remember well. We got around 3 cm

January 20

There's some talk of colder weather second half of Feb. We'll see

January 20

47 minutes ago, Methuselah said:

Absolutely; I've been obsessed with the stuff since 1963; but others haven't. I guess that's human nature?

I wish I'd been around to see it! My dad talks about it. 79 and 2010 were Brill but not in same league !

January 20

11 minutes ago, Don said:

This is a weather forum!!

Yes, extreme weather (all types) does cause issues (always has done), but it's the guilt tripping that winds me up and seems to be getting worse on here! It's also a fact that very cold weather is getting rarer and rarer and will continue to do so. Last week for example was nothing compared to the likes of events in the past including December 2010 and March 2013. Most would have been satisfied to have seen a few days snow cover and I don't recall many wishing for weeks and weeks of freezing cold!

Most of us have our selfish indulgences. It's human if we love something so much to perhaps lose sight of the impacts it may have on others. There are worse things than liking cold and snow.

January 19

1 hour ago, EastofWigan said:

Looks like this is a good* time for snow historically.

*for low lying areas of the NW

It really is isn't it!

January 19

35 minutes ago, iand61 said:

I can’t beat 20ft drifts but we did have a decent snowfall around 10th March here with approaching a foot of level snow and plenty of drifting in the lanes.

TBH I’d forgotten about it until I read the posts and I don’t think it stuck around for that long but it was easily the heaviest snow of last winter and joins a list of years where the best is saved for the end.

Blimey! Was it rain in Manchester or a shadow thing?? Can't remember anything decent! Love the photos!

January 19

18 minutes ago, Kasim Awan said:

November 2021 and March 2023 were really decent snow events with severe drifting snow 20ft drifts in the area, to have those two events in these mild times in close succession is very good achievement.

November was a Sunday event yes? Me and my mates struggled to get back from Edinburgh that day! Don't remember a march 23 event. I'm staggered there were 20 ft drifts. Am I missing something here???

January 19

59 minutes ago, reef said:

It's the total opposite here. In the last 11 years, only late-February 2018 (4 days) and February 2021 (7 days) have managed more than a day or two with lying snow.

I think we've always had these occasional prolonged spells every few years and they're still generally potent enough to deliver. The short-lived transient spells have vanished here though. The toppler which was a thing of the 90s and 00s seem to never happen now. They used to be the main source of snow here outside the more famous spells.

I this is why we've done better in recent years on this side. As you say, the transient ones have done a runner. I remember some of those when I lived in West Yorkshire in 90's. West of the pennines they were never cold enough and the snow shadow would always show its hand anyway

January 19

59 minutes ago, qwertyK said:

December 2022, yeah. Not sure if it was as much snow as in December 2017 but I recall it being very similar. Happened quite suddenly. Got down to well below freezing in the nights.

Can you remember one from maybe 2003 or 2004? Think Jan. Was about 4 inches?? Happened overnight.

January 19

12 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

One thing I have noticed is that snow cover has hung around longer in recent winters. For example, the winter of 2018-19 which was not a snowfest and was very mild times but I still managed to record 6 days of lying snow, all down to one morning snowfalls of late January

4 days with lying snow is going to be recorded for the current spell

28th December 2020 snowfall gave a covering that lasted until the 9th January.

The Boxing Day 2014 snowfall, that cover lasted until New Year's Eve.

In the 1990s, a lot of the snowfalls gave coverings, were here today and gone tomorrow affairs. The late January 1996 easterly which gave a lot of snow for this area for an easterly, that snow cover contrived to disappear within 48 hrs, a "dry thaw" Even the early February 1996 snowfall covering which started Monday night /Tuesday was gone by the Friday.

That Jan 96 one was incredible. Had I been as interested then as I am now, am not sure how I would have coped!!! Didn't we have a week last winter where it stayed on ground? Thinking December??

January 19

34 minutes ago, Daniel* said:

This graph I made is relevant meteorological winter mean temperature at Heathrow from winter 1948/49. It’s evident there was a step change in late 1980s, if we cherry pick last 10 years there’s been no real overall change. It’s clear winter 2015/16 was a very high point, indeed it fits with my anecdotal thoughts.

Can you do one for Scotland??

January 19

22 minutes ago, Daniel* said:

This graph I made is relevant meteorological winter mean temperature at Heathrow from winter 1948/49. It’s evident there was a step change in late 1980s, if we cherry pick last 10 years there’s been no real overall change. It’s clear winter 2015/16 was a very high point, indeed it fits with my anecdotal thoughts.

Fascinating chart. So much to analyse. Interesting that 97 to 2009 only 2 below 91 to 2010 average. The next 12 years has 6 below. Of course, I'm picking one scenario that could suggest a slight move to colder but I am biased!!!!

January 19

7 out of 10 for spell

7 also for snow event.

Feb looks promising. Who needs a SSW

Why isn't rain ever marginal!

January 19

1 hour ago, Midlands Ice Age said:

Thanks RS...

Lots of interest in there..

Including how mild second half of January's have always been a regular event, and in many cases they were 'warmer' than current.

To me of the most interest is that the years 1967,68,69 were 13th, 13th, and 16th highest.

Most people think that period was cold, but in reality it was very changeable.,.

I haven't checked back to see what followed in February!!!!!

MIA

I believe first half of 70's weren't particularly cold. I was at primary school. No snow at all. Second half of 70's different story

January 19

Manchester's averaged 4 below for a week so I'm cold for a very cold week here. Snow always a surprise in Stockport so for me, a very good winter spell.

January 19

7 hours ago, Scorcher said:

I don't think it is snowing more in Manchester. Unless someone has some statistics to prove it?

Snow still isn't common during winter. There have been some notable snowy spells in recent years but then also very long snowless periods. Even in the winters of the late 90s/early 2000s we would still usually get a covering at some point.

Yes, we do get a lot of snowless periods. 6 out of 7 years pretty good though. 2018 beast, 2019 think it was Jan, 2020 none, 2021 quite a few snowfalls and pretty cold January, 2022 none but it had snowed in November, 2023 we had snow twice, 2024 last Tuesday.

January 19

Dusting in Stockport! Great week its been! Very happy

January 19

1 hour ago, PsychedelicTony said:

I'd say it's been significantly cold but not a particularly memorable event.

Its weird for me as I lived in Manchester for 28 years and barring 1996 / 2009/10 it was hopeless. 2013 was ok I think Stockport where I was working. But seeing the pictures from the last few years I'd say things have improved. For low lying Manchester.

My current location is over the water in North Wales, coastal location actually renowned for its mildness. But have had a few blanket whiteouts in the last 5 years. Particularly last year. Impassable roads etc.

This spell yeah cold, but nothing like you guys have had, 3 or 4 falls from isolated showers not amounting to more than a dusting.

So 3 or 4/10 for me.

As compared to say 10/10 for Manchester Jan 2010

Keep this conversation going please!!!! I've been saying this for a while about low lying areas and finally someone hears me!. Where I live in Stockport I hear the usual stuff about the cold snowy winters we used to have. We really didn't! Winters were colder yes, but no way were they snowier other than the ones you mention. Going back further, 79 and 81 were very memorable. This is now the 6th year out of 7 we've had good snowfalls. Wonder is it because our cold spells are now more from north westerly?? 80s were dominated by easterlies. Great for some parts, but not for mancunions. Snowy breakdowns from the south west even worse!!!! Is Manc the new Moscow!

January 18

37 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Even cold spells. Only last a couple of days now. Not like the good old days.

The 'good old days' should be banned from every site!

January 18

23 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Definitely a chance! Can see big clouds developing to the west. Just keep an eye on the radar.

Certainly will

January 18

12 minutes ago, Had Worse said:

Another 'Here's what you could win moment. GFS has that habit of picking a trend dropping it then playing catch up to the other models that arrived late.

Ha ha, it does exactly that doesn't it. Well put

January 18

Latest radar suggests parts of we're all in the game tonight. Probs not as much snow as Monday. Presume still cold enough low levels

January 18

9 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

I think tonight is just another wait and see scenario. Convection is often so unpredictable, the other night we was only supposed to get trace amounts of snow or zero according to some other models but in the end we ended up with a couple of inches. Not amazing but even so this shows the models don't always have a great handle on things regarding sea convection/streamers.

It's funny isn't how we search desperately for the models to give us answers? Honestly, it wasn't till Monday night that we had a clue we'd get snow!!!

January 18

9 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

I reckon 45 mins or so before those showers reach the NW coast? Assuming they stay intact of course

Any chance for Manc??

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