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Environment Canada I got this forecast from. Vancouver Island is a good option for sure and South Island of NZ and parts of southern Chiilie :P. North America is lucky having the Rockies and Cascades to block Pacific westerlies from going inland hence the more limited range, if Western North America was flat I think oceanic climates would extend to Montana/North Dakota e.t..c, Western Europe has both a lack of north/south mountain chains and large landmass hence it being the main Cfb area.

To show its not only the UK with cruddy winter weather and climates I shall show a yukcy forecast I have found. It somehow has similar sunshine levels to somewhere in the southern half I would guess rain days are similar but its heavier for Tofino. Tofino BC

Today is the sort of mild winter weather I can live with and even enjoy. 12c and cloudy with sunny spells. It feels like early spring but with low sun angle and shorter days. Would rather this than raging zonal westerlies and 8c with heavy rain

I wouldn’t see Dec 2015 as a Bartlett month it seemed more of a zonal southwesterly pattern (the very worse winter pattern in my opinion. Plus while your location isn’t far north I know they tend to come with a big LP over Iceland so the north can still get wet cyclonic westerlies (Esp Scotland) Admittedly Bartletts can be pretty meh in Nov-mid Jan but in Feb they can bring early spring warmth and sunny setttled weather with southerlies from Iberia/France.

If we can’t get cold or wintery set ups please give me a Bartlett over a zonal westerly pattern.. It will keep the Atlantic at bay.reduce flooding risk more usable weather for outdoor stuff ,let things dry out and reduce heating bills. I wonder if the PNW has its own version of a Bartlett high by the way. I’d guess it’d be the Nevada/California high.

The U.K.s climate would be a fair bit better if it was moved 5 degrees south (assuming Eurasia also moved 5 degrees south too). London at 46N would have something like 12/6 in Jan,18/10 in April 27/18 in July and 20/13 in October and around 1900-2000 sunshine hours a year. Edinburgh at 50N would be something like 8/3 in Jan,15/7 in April 23/15 in July and 17/8 in October and around 1700 sunshine hours a year.

Generally I like cold and snowy winters most of all although I can live with mild winters if its a Bartlett high type mildness rather than cyclonic SWles. Bartlett's are lovely especially in the latter half of winter it can bring early spring warmth and sunshine. Feb 2019 and 2023 come to mind here.

That is exactly what I had in mind when I thought of a Bartlett!. This also looks pretty Bartlett to me Feb 2023 seems a classical Bartlett month. (Not as warm though with less of a southerly feed)

I thought they were the same thing but with different names. What a Bartlett is exactly seems pretty vague but I see it as a high over Europe that covers most of Europe blocking anything from the north and west. Something like Feb 2023

If it can’t be cold and snowy then give us a big Bartlett high. I know deathknell for wintert weather but at least it would keet Atlantic lows and wet westerlies at bay. (although Bartletts tend to come with a big area of LP over Iceland /Greenland so it can be still cold and wet for the northern U.K. if the high isn’t big enough) Are Bartletts seen as the worse winter set up, they are better than Atlantic dominated weather. (Spring and summer Bartletts are a dream though)

Haven’t had a fully sunny day here since early October. On days when it isn’t overcast it’s ether been an overcast morning/sunny afternoon or the inverse. Anyone who has lived through winter in an oceanic climate deserves a medal for bravery and toughness.

Following OPs rules this would be my nightmare year Jan 2014 Feb 2020 Mar 2023 April 2012 May 2021 June 2016 (would have used 2012 but April 2012 exists) July 2015 August 2017 Sept 2022 Oct 2019 Nov= Blur to be honest Dec= 2013

The 4-6 weeks ether side of the winter solstice are truly an endurance test for me unless it’s cold and wintery or antyclonic and sunny.

I have wondered what months would make a continental year. For me using mostly post 2010 months this would come out as a continental feeling year (Cold snowy winters, mixed shoulder seasons and hot summers but with some convective rainfall and storms thrown in too) Jan 2018 Feb 2018 Mar 2013 Apr 2016 May 2017 or 2023 Jun 2017 Jul 2021 Aug 2004 is the closest Sept 2015 Oct 2022 Nov 2010 Dec 2010

A nice day here but you wouldn't guess that to be the case looking at synpotics with a big fat low over the UK. I find that in the cooler months lows can often be sunnier than highs provided fronts aren't too close together giving a few days between rain fronts. Any kind of high apart from a southerly or south-easterly one can get pretty cloudy in the cooler months (Any Atlantic or North Sea feed into a high tends to become a cloud fest this time of year although northerly highs can be okay for my area) with the cloud getting trapped in the low while lows tend to have cloud moving at least.

I have been wondering which years have had the most bogeyman months in it? Not to say that year was bad if it was mixed with some very good months so not asking worse years overall. I would say for me 2012 and even 2023 for some parts (October here hasn't been terrible, a little meh but not to the order of endless rain) but I know its been very bad some parts). 2012 had three bogeyman months with April,June and July. 2015 also pops to mind.

I really despise western European weather from mid October to mid Feb. I do indeed include Iberia as even Iberia isn't that great in Nov-Jan away from the far south for my tastes, Rome and Barcelona for example still get their fair share damp and claggy grot with weather similar to a southern UK October in winter although Oct and Feb would be a fair bit better. The combo of short winter days due to being north of 40N, endless wet and gloomy westerlies and Atlantic lows means that Western Europe apart from high ground has miserable weather with temps in the 5-15 range and damp wet weather. New Zealand, western Norway and Northern California/the PNW have the same problems with winter climates but those three areas do have easier access to mountains for a snow fix. Someone from say northern France or southern England is a fair distance from the Scottish Highlands, the Pyrenees and the Alps for instance.

6.8c and 144mm. Feeling a cyclonic first half but settling down 2nd half. Lots of Wly and NWlys hence the slightly cooler guess.

This October despite the wetness of the 2nd half isn't a bogeyman month for me (I know that this month will not be remembered fondly at all in Northern England and Scotland given flooding). The first half was lovely with a warm spell followed by a early cold blast and the 2nd half while less settled has never felt oppressively gloomy or wet considering its late October. A bogeyman October would be something like 2020. This October will likely get a 6/10 from me. It seems that the rain has been more showers or fast moving fronts rather than those endless drizzly days you can get for my area.

Northern blocking needs to go take a hike until winter! High pressure over Scandinavia is firing up the jet and trapping lows around Western Europe. Marxh and July were also poor months caused by northern blocking

I already feel my semi-SAD state coming on (Never been officially diagnosed but this sort of weather gets me down but not to the extent I cant do stuff or function). I know I have talked about this a fair bit but the Oct-Feb climates that get my SAD triggers of short daylengths, gloom and rain, lack of real wintery weather such as snow but not mild/warm enough to do outdoor stuff comfortably are the UK, Ireland, northern France, Benelux, Southern New Zealand, Pacific Northwest (Esp Washington and BC), western Norway and western Alaska. Even the Med area to an extent is pretty meh in the winter you'd have to go to North Africa for a reliably warm, sunny and dry winter climate (January in Barcelona,Nice and Rome would feel like October in Southern Britain) I would kill for a continental winter with reliable snow and it doesn't even have to be sunny ether. Lets say at least 20% possible sunshine. Id kill for a inland Scandinavian,western Russian,Hokkadio or Great Lakes type winter climate myself and none of them are that good for winter sunshine.

We do have the PNW,coastal Alaska western Norway,Denmark ,northern France and Benelux to share wet gloomy and miserable autumn climates with at least in the western world and Northen hemisphere. Denver is an interesting climate it’s impresssively warm all year for its latitude and elevation.

I hope the wet spell forecast is brief, GFS and forecasts have a October 2020 vibe to them for the next week at least. I don't care about cloud as much this time of year as I do April-Sept I just ask for usable dry days.

If I had to guess the "natural" climate for humans would be tropical highland climates. Something like Quito, Mexico City or Addis Ababa. Low-mid 20s all year and not too dry to boot.

Really felt the cooling down earlier it suddenly went cold over a 2 hour span.. first time it’s felt like October and not some weird extended August Sweating in summer clothes last week was bizzare for Oct Hoping for many more cold plunges to come! Warmth can take a temporary break until mid Feb make way for frost and crisp days.