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It's a bit like Noah's ark
Do you spend trillions building an ark, what happens if you don't need the ark but just a paddle?
I think we need realism rather then panic. We have some light drizzle so buy a mac don't build a storm shelter capable of with standing 200mph blizzards just yet
If Hurricane activity in the Atlantic basin last year was double the forecast it would be on every front page
When it's below forecast its a 'blip'.
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/st...View/sid/25912/
Its more stark than that - watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI
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Starvation is caused by lack of food
Disease lack of sanitation
Dehydration lack of water etc
So whats that got to do with a warming world ?
..erm everything!
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Unfortunately more will die from the heat in a warmer world. Look at France and the Balkans in 2006 (think that was the year) many died - much more than in cold period.
As with all these figures they are reported out of context and in isolation.
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The BBC article suggests it can be recharged with a home compressor run from the mains for abot 4 hours - thats quicker than an electric car and therefore probably less energy intensive. Other figures given say it can do an equivalent of 120mpg, so presumably that factors in the recharge costs.
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Oh yeah....I won then!
What's the difference between landscape architects and architects? Landscape architects are much better.
Argh - go on oil ya lawn mower.
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You may find this very useful.
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thats correct OON
.... and i beat you by 0.1
-3.9 up to max of 13.2
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I just looked back at my student research i did in the early 90's and found some figures that could be useful.
As I vaguely suggested in my earlier post that maybe the ozone hole isn't the cause but more to do with something connected to it, ie the CFC's. Unlike other GH gasses CFC's have no known natural sink and as a result linger in the atmosphere for up to 400 years and are 3000 to 13000 times more effective as a green house gas than CO2. I think it would be good to see that info graphed against the temperature changes.
To save typing I've attached a scan of the relevant pages from my masters (finshed in 92 - so be kind )
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It is an interesting corelation and one I think has some legs. I think its also important to recognise that the ozone gas at high altitude, where it forms a protective filter, performs/reacts very differently at lower altitudes. The gas at sea level is a poison and one that is bad news not just for breathing life but also for its possible affect on the climate. Could the correlation therefore, not be between the ozone hole but the ozone pollution created at teh surface.
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http://www.napier.eclipse.co.uk/weather/bonacina.html
Here is an interesting site detailing how snowy winters have been since 1875. We have not had a very snowy winter since 1978/79 and nothing above average for over 10 years.
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Using that data I've made a crude graph from it. as you can see the trend line is down.
I set very snowy as 4, snowy - 3, average - 2, and little - 1
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Dont live there but climbed it and camped at its feet in the early 90's
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Snowing here again now. Bored of it.
Snow? What's that? As is normal - the only true mountainous area in England has no snow apart from a dusting on the tops - a very english effort i must say.
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Quick answer to the question - No
Slightly longer answer - Back in 1992 when i finsihed my masters in climate change I concluded that the evidence was unclear both ways, but what was clear is that the human race was having an unprecedented effect on the world and it would be unwise to think that that effect would not bring about instability (or change in pattern) of the global climate.
My personal view, now and at the time, is that AGW would bring about the things we are seeing in China etc.
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THis coud complicate things - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7194579.stm
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came across this video on YOUTUBE. listen and see what you think.. i think this guy actually makes sense..
simple, logical and straight forward argument - who can fault it? But will the powers that be watch it or act on it.
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To save me typing and adding the graphs my summary for 2007 is at http://www.lortonweather.co.uk/Analysis-2007.htm
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We Shall see. If you look at iceage now site you will see many articals about the comming Global cooling. As For Us At present I really do think that over the next 10 years we shall cool down and this could begin at any time now. In Some months it has already began. For exaple there has not been a true hot August in England since 2003 and apart from July 2006 even these months have been cooler. The Net weather forcats modles at Present seem to show that next summer will be a cold one with well below averages Temps. This is against global warming trends for summer in England. There A good chance in the next 10 years we will see bitter cold winters as cold as the worst ones of the 20th century. Like I pointed out cold can start with in a year and with out warning.
I'm certainly no expert in data analysis but if you look at the graph i have produced using the Manley data set updated with the PARKER AND HORTON data (all taken straight from the MET office web site).
The earliest year is 1659 and latest 2006, as you can see with a simple linear trend line applied the trend is up. I cant see how the data can show anything other than a continual increase in mean temperatures for the CET area.
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clear calm and cold
at 9.02am it is
-6.7
1034.3
clear
slight 2km/h breeze
89% humidity
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currently -8.8 (8.41am) with a low of -9.4 making it the coldest since i started recording data in 2005
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-3.8c here.
Beat you this morning. Still -6.1 (9.39am) with a low of -7.7, which is the coldest all year. Has an ice ages started in the lakes - watch for glaciers coming your way.
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Counago's not going to like it this afternoon then.
Still -3.1C here and the dog has his coat on.
You beat me. But still -2.4 (10.03am), got down to -4.4 earlier.
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pfffff global warming my butt, summertime this june and july were cold and wet if global warming is true then why arnet we have a scorching summers or winters??? its all baloney if you ask me!!! =P
How do you explain this then http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7139797.stm?
"Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013' "
This is a very scary prediction and one that is sadly almost certain.
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very cold here
-5.4 Low of -5.6
Calm
No Cloud
(Web site will update at 8.33am)
Sunday 17th February 2008
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1.2 °C at the moment with a low -7.2 °C
slight cloud but clearing