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See, that's simply not true, I don't have to look at most peoples location box on here, because the majority give a fair interpretation and analysis of the models for the whole of the UK, adding regional comments where necessary to indicate that some areas may fair well or badly as appropriate (I would give TWS as an example of many). Pretty much like the national weather forecast in fact. It seems to me that those getting most irritated are the die hard heat lovers, who can't be told that anything other than a full on heatwave is occurring, sorry to say while the weather isn't all that bad, it isn't all that great either (for the UK as a whole), distinctly average one might say!

Well you see that's a little inaccurate, and maybe a bit imby, because we have had heavy rain overnight, and it's been raining all day, lashing it down at times, and it's not exactly warm and there is currently zero need for shades. One size does not fit all. Not that this isn't British summer weather of course.

Don't disagree mushy, yes a step in the right direction, in the same way that a high pressure/blocking over greenland in winter is a step in the right direction towards a cold spell, but other things need to fall into place. Would just be nice to read some model analysis by those more learned than myself, rather than 'signs of lowering heights over greenland' and pictures or links showing it day after day, which I can go and view for myself anyway. And before anyone says it, yes I realise it might be time to use the ignore feature.

No, you are quite right, he didn't explicitly say so, but I would argue that it was very much implied. Anyway, before then it looks wetter and cooler more or less everywhere, what happens beyond Sunday is anyones guess.

You seem to keep banging on about LP over Greenland being the answer to our weather prayers, which it isn't. As some of the more learned members on here have tried to point out (namely JH and TWS amongst others), low pressure there, and high pressure here does not equal dry, warm and settled conditions, there are so many factors at play, not to mention the position of these systems, and hence the direction of windflow.

Daft question really, as GP stated, they both use completely different methods. GP is obviously going to stick to his forecast and BFTP to his. I enjoy reading posts by both, and GP has been spot on all year. However, neither of them is a weather god, and neither can be absolutely certain what will happen. As GP suggests, the analysis will have to take place post-winter.

Well a quick albeit search found this: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Joseph_D'Aleo I guess some will dismiss him, because he is a climate change sceptic, seems credible enough to me though, and he seemed to be pretty close to the mark last year. Would love him to be right again this year, time will tell...

I'll take Jan 87 - more snow that I've ever seen in my life (in this country that is).

Not sure about that, here in 'sunny' Norfolk (ahem), it hasn't been summer for 3 weeks. In fact GPs thoughts on August into September in the technical thread have been spot on. Enjoy your trip....

Blimey, what an extremely prejudiced view, people are not 'normal' if they don't like summer and don't like bbqs? It seems to me you only want people to comment on the models that show warm, summery weather. So if 9 out of 10 runs show a cooler more unsettled outlook, we can't discuss those, we must focus on only the run that shows a heatwave? Wouldn't want to annoy or depress anyone, heaven forbid. The forum is to discuss what the models show, not what you wish for.

Indeed, great weather now and on the cards for the forseeable, long may it continue! Wasn't benign here yesterday, was lashing it down most of the day, gusts of wind and damn chilly! Cinema was heaving!!

Looking 'very good' and 'fantastic', I must have missed something, temps of 9 - 12 by day (certainly for this location), and ground frosts at night? Excuse me if I don't get too excited. After the last few days, next week will feel chilly.

The country as a whole as I understand it (England) was 239% above average rainfall, and Norfolk as a whole had well above average rainfall, it was only areas to the east of the region that were spared. Although the exception to that was Beccles, just 20 miles from Norwich to the SE had it's highest rainfall since 1968. I'm afraid Norwich was not representative of the region.

I'm sure the atlantic will arrive bang on cue in July and August.....

You might want your coat later in the week

What a pointless thread, it's called personal preference. It would be a dull old world if we all enjoyed the same thing wouldn't it?

Coldest for 31 years for the UK, 47 years for Scotland - I fail to understand what exactly you are expecting/looking for.

What a sensible post, I was going to respond but you have done a far better job, I think some really need to get a sense of perspective.

-3/-4 in City centres Monday night, and I daresay it will be a fair bit colder than that here, and the outlook is cold. In my book that's wintry - unless by 'any note' you mean snowmageddon, then you're right, that isn't showing...

Been snowing heavily for nearly 4 hours now, a good covering out there.

But WE, the cold has mostly won this winter, fact. There have been very few mild interludes, and where there have been it's only got to average if not a little below. My own stats bear this out - you have to go back a long way to have the number of ground and air frosts, falling and lying snow days that we have had this winter.

Heavy snow/sleet for the last half hour, has stopped now though...

Advisory for heavy snow - pretty well perfect?

The thing is WE, I cannot recall a single post from you with any real analysis of the models (yes before it is said, nor have I, I'm simply not clever enough). What I have seen is plenty of posts about how others should not look too far ahead and anything beyond 96 hours is hogwash. Then I hear people say that the models are struggling, only to be chastised with something along the lines of ' they are struggling no more than computer based weather models do beyond x hours', you really can't have it both ways. Same could be said that you might be worth paying attention to if you provided some real analysis of the models, rather than policing the thread for anyone that dares to discuss FI. If only up to T96 was discussed it wouldn't be worth reading the thread, we all know the caveats of charts becoming reality the further out that they go...

Moderate snow for the last hour, beginning to settle...