ukmoose

Just stopped snowing leaving a good five inches of deep, powdery snow. heaviest snow for 18 years for this area. Very surprising given all the forecasts last night. I am guessing everything stayed further south than expected? Could anyone enlighten me?

It has stopped here now. It is not raining however so may just stay..? Not sure what the temperature is but it's good snow, not wet and very deep. Deepest for 18 years in these parts easily. Just helped push a car back with 8 other people as it got stuck trying to drive out. Fantastic! Edit: I'm assuming everything moved a little further south at the last minute?? Anyone?

Don't quite understand this - snow much heavier here than on Monday even. 5 to 6 inches I would say and still snowing. BBC site still have us down for sleet, Metcheck too. Met Office warning was removed. Many roads pretty much impassable at the moment. What's going on?? (Great to see though!)

Global warming isn't something to buy in to or not. It's there. Fact. (Even the Antarctic is no longer immune it would seem). In itself, it is not a theory but based on massive amounts of data. What's causing the warming and how long it will continue is open to much debate. Natural cycles, man-made emissions, combination of the two - this is where the grey area lies. I think it is unlikely that the actual warming is in fact what is causing our mild run of winters. I think it relates more to what Steve said at the start of this thread and what TOM referred to in a post a few months back. I think the real impact of GW is a few years down the line. 10 to 50 maybe. Looking at the upcoming cold spell, it seems the curse is about to strike once more (not many will be surprised, though many more will still be sorely disappointed. It's just how it is nowadays - we can get close it seems, very close even (none closer than this winter) but factors now always conspire to prevent real cold from spending any extended period over the UK. 18 years since the last widespread severe cold spell for the UK is a long time in human terms, but not that long in climate terms. Maybe next winter it will revert...or the one after.

I'll go for 3.7 please. Thanks

I think that's right, Jackone. The same pattern for the last few year seems at the moment to be repeating. If it continues, February will be worse still with milder temperatures at low levels with unreliable snow and rain at lower levels and then it will probably pick up again for March (and last year, April). This would be very disappointing from a personal point of view as we are skiing at half term in February. The last few have been erratic at best. There seems to have been a marked slow down in snowfall with levels now seemingly falling back to long term average amounts having been quite a bit above through December. It hasn't been overly warm yet but there needs to be a bit of a turnaround I think if this February is going to break the mould of the last few.

Been away for a while and not able to post. I see there is a late update required for the cet which I will see to. Uncalled for, unnecessary and untrue I would say. You won't find many (any?) more able statisticians, mathematicians or meteorologists on this thread. His spelling, punctuation and grammar ain't bad either... I've checked through the thread but I can't see any further revisions so I will assume this still stands. So: 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 92 0.4-C: Roger J Smith 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 159 0.3-C: Polar Continental Late entry 10 P Pts 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 160 0.3C: tinybill Late entry 10 P Pts 60 0.5C: Matty M 150 0.5C: tundra Late entry 10 P Pts 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 137 1.3C: Seasons 162 1.6C: SLEETY Late entry 10 P Pts 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 138 1.7C: Mr Maunder 30 1.8C: BARRY 88 1.8C: Devon-Nelly 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C: snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 87 1.9C: Polar Side 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 114 2.0C: AtlanticFlamethrower 152 2.0C: BLAST FROM THE PAST Late entry 10 P Pts 82 2.1C: casparjack 164 2.1C: Loraine Bennett Late entry 10 P Pts 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 105 2.2C: West is Best 154 2.2C: Steve Murr Late entry 10 P Pts 133 2.3C: fozi999 65 2.4C: snowsure 125 2.4C: cheshire snow 124 2.5C: artic fox 143 2.5C: davehsug 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 79 2.6C: Stu London 151 2.6C: RUSS L.F.C. Late entry 10 P Pts 153 2.6C: Stormmad26 Late entry 10 P Pts 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 89 2.7C: Great Plum 117 2.7C: NaDamantaSam 39 2.8C: Norrance 96 2.8C: Glacier Point 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 86 2.9C: damianslaw 108 2.9C: eddie 178 2.9C: Cold in Cromarty Late entry 30 P Pts 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 93 3.1C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 128 3.1C: Paul B 129 3.1C: osmposm 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 74 3.2C: Don 115 3.2C: mountain shadow 113 3.2C: kold weather 119 3.2C: Stratos Ferric 123 3.2C: stricklands1984 163 3.2C: Jack Wales Late entry 10 P Pts 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 80 3.3C: Anti-Mild 84 3.3C: Snowyowl9 121 3.3C: LadyPakal 158 3.3C: Thundery Wintry Showers Late entry 10 P Pts 8 3.4C: pjb120 116 3.4C: mulzy 111 3.4C: phil n.warks 145 3.4C: Paul 103 3.5C: Megamoonflake 140 3.5C: Stargazer 141 3.5C: beng 157 3.5C: reef Late entry 10 P Pts 14 3.6C: The PIT 81 3.6C: SteveB 50 3.7C: derby4life 112 3.7C: Bottesford 130 3.7C: JACKONE 134 3.7C: mark bayley 139 3.7C: ned 136 3.8C: Kentish Man 149 3.8C: TomSE20 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 91 3.9C: DR Hosking 127 3.9C: mk13 142 3.9C: Albion Snowman 146 3.9C: Mark H 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 106 4.0C: JJB McCabe-deluxe edition 110 4.0C: IRON-BRU 126 4.0C: Tommyd1258 148 4.0C: acbrixton 76 4.1C: Timmead 131 4.1C: Timmy H 90 4.2C: sundog 95 4.2C: Nick F 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 107 4.4C: ukmoose 75 4.5C: Duncan McAlister 83 4.7C: chionomaniac 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm the Storm 189 5.2C: Summer Blizzard Late 40 P Pts 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 77 5.7C: DAVID SNOW 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans That's quite a hike up from 1.7 Summer Blizzard. Cumulonimbus ****** Group: Members Posts: 6,937 Joined: 26-October 03 From: Steeton, W Yorks, 270m ASL Member No.: 364 A finishing value of anything above 2.8C would be a big leap by any standards (though less notable in modern times). 5.2C is the largest upwards correction in the series plotted here: I don't see that being breached this year. 3.5C movement would be a top five leap; 3.8C would equal the largest in the even larger teapot (i.e. outturn of 3.6C or higher). Reduced 87% Attached Image 960 x 720 (30.77K) Interesting graph SF. let's see what happens...

Fascinating to read those stats TM. Well put together indeed. I am trying to tie them in with my ever-fading memory and it just goes to show how we can mislead ourselves sometimes with false memories. I am guilty of that more than most probably but your figures do seem to confirm my thinking that night time minima are higher than they used to be.

Still on holiday

I have updated the list. I confess to being a little surprised by the number of entries on New Year's Eve (and later!) Penalty points apply to late entries (10 points each day I think). 129 entries in total: 9 sub zero entries 52 zero to 2.9 56 3 to 4.2 12 over 4.2 My guess now would be the threes to four point twos have it. 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 92 0.4-C: Roger J Smith 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 159 0.3-C: Polar Continental Late entry 10 P Pts 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 160 0.3C: tinybill Late entry 10 P Pts 60 0.5C: Matty M 150 0.5C: tundra Late entry 10 P Pts 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 137 1.3C: Seasons 162 1.6C: SLEETY Late entry 10 P Pts 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 132 1.7C: Summer blizzard 138 1.7C: Mr Maunder 30 1.8C: BARRY 88 1.8C: Devon-Nelly 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C: snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 87 1.9C: Polar Side 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 114 2.0C: AtlanticFlamethrower 152 2.0C: BLAST FROM THE PAST Late entry 10 P Pts 82 2.1C: casparjack 164 2.1C: Loraine Bennett Late entry 10 P Pts 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 105 2.2C: West is Best 154 2.2C: Steve Murr Late entry 10 P Pts 133 2.3C: fozi999 65 2.4C: snowsure 125 2.4C: cheshire snow 124 2.5C: artic fox 143 2.5C: davehsug 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 79 2.6C: Stu London 151 2.6C: RUSS L.F.C. Late entry 10 P Pts 153 2.6C: Stormmad26 Late entry 10 P Pts 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 89 2.7C: Great Plum 117 2.7C: NaDamantaSam 39 2.8C: Norrance 96 2.8C: Glacier Point 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 86 2.9C: damianslaw 108 2.9C: eddie 178 2.9C: Cold in Cromarty Late entry 30 P Pts 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 93 3.1C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 128 3.1C: Paul B 129 3.1C: osmposm 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 74 3.2C: Don 115 3.2C: mountain shadow 113 3.2C: kold weather 119 3.2C: Stratos Ferric 123 3.2C: stricklands1984 163 3.2C: Jack Wales Late entry 10 P Pts 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 80 3.3C: Anti-Mild 84 3.3C: Snowyowl9 121 3.3C: LadyPakal 158 3.3C: Thundery Wintry Showers Late entry 10 P Pts 8 3.4C: pjb120 116 3.4C: mulzy 111 3.4C: phil n.warks 145 3.4C: Paul 103 3.5C: Megamoonflake 140 3.5C: Stargazer 141 3.5C: beng 157 3.5C: reef Late entry 10 P Pts 14 3.6C: The PIT 81 3.6C: SteveB 50 3.7C: derby4life 112 3.7C: Bottesford 130 3.7C: JACKONE 134 3.7C: mark bayley 139 3.7C: ned 136 3.8C: Kentish Man 149 3.8C: TomSE20 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 91 3.9C: DR Hosking 127 3.9C: mk13 142 3.9C: Albion Snowman 146 3.9C: Mark H 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 106 4.0C: JJB McCabe-deluxe edition 110 4.0C: IRON-BRU 126 4.0C: Tommyd1258 148 4.0C: acbrixton 76 4.1C: Timmead 131 4.1C: Timmy H 90 4.2C: sundog 95 4.2C: Nick F 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 107 4.4C: ukmoose 75 4.5C: Duncan McAlister 83 4.7C: chionomaniac 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm the Storm 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 77 5.7C: DAVID SNOW 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans Please let me know of any errors, omissions or duplications.

The last update from me as I am off for a couple of days; will update on my return. 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 92 0.4-C: Roger J Smith 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 60 0.5C: Matty M 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 30 1.8C: BARRY 88 1.8C: Devon-Nelly 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C: snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 87 1.9C: Polar Side 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 114 2.0C: AtlanticFlamethrower 82 2.1C: casparjack 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 105 2.2C: West is Best 65 2.4C: snowsure 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 79 2.6C: Stu London 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 89 2.7C: Great Plum 117 2.7C: NaDamantaSam 39 2.8C: Norrance 96 2.8C: Glacier Point 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 86 2.9C: damianslaw 108 2.9C: eddie 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 93 3.1C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 74 3.2C: Don 115 3.2C: mountain shadow 113 3.2C: kold weather 119 3.2C: Stratos Ferric 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 80 3.3C: Anti-Mild 84 3.3C: Snowyowl9 8 3.4C: pjb120 116 3.4C: mulzy 111 3.4C: phil n.warks 103 3.5C: Megamoonflake 14 3.6C: The PIT 81 3.6C: SteveB 50 3.7C: derby4life 112 3.7C: Bottesford 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 91 3.9C: DR Hosking 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 106 4.0C: JJB McCabe-deluxe edition 110 4.0C: IRON-BRU 76 4.1C: Timmead 90 4.2C: sundog 95 4.2C: Nick F 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 107 4.4C: ukmoose 75 4.5C: Duncan McAlister 83 4.7C: chionomaniac 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 77 5.7C: DAVID SNOW 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans Happy New Year!

Thanks for that guys - it's really interesting to have all those charts on view with a great no-nonsense commentary. What a great way to explain the charts which can be a little esoteric without the right input. Happy New Year to the whole NW team and thanks for all your efforts throughout the year. Moose

I think it has been a cold month generally without anything particularly exciting at any stage (other than in the FI models). To get a below average winter month is, in itself, quite unusual these days though and if we do end up a full degree or more below the 71-2000 mean then I think that must count as a real result and is probably about as low as we can get and the best we can expect. Would much rather have this dry, frosty weather than the usual warm so'westers.

The latest January cet list: 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 92 0.4-C: Roger J Smith 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 60 0.5C: Matty M 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 30 1.8C: BARRY 88 1.8C: Devon-Nelly 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C:snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 87 1.9C: Polar Side 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 82 2.1C: casparjack 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 105 2.2C: West is Best 65 2.4C: snowsure 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 79 2.6C: Stu London 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 89 2.7C: Great Plum 39 2.8C: Norrance 96 2.8C: Glacier Point 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 86 2.9C: damianslaw 108 2.9C: eddie 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 93 3.1C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 74 3.2C: Don 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 80 3.3C: Anti-Mild 84 3.3C: Snowyowl9 8 3.4C: pjb120 103 3.5C: Megamoonflake 14 3.6C: The PIT 81 3.6C: SteveB 50 3.7C: derby4life 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 91 3.9C: DR Hosking 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 106 4.0C: JJB McCabe-deluxe edition 76 4.1C: Timmead 90 4.2C: sundog 95 4.2C: Nick F 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 107 4.4C: ukmoose 75 4.5C: Duncan McAlister 83 4.7C: chionomaniac 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 77 5.7C: DAVID SNOW 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans

It is hard to call, but judging by the latest trends, my guess would be for the cold to be shunted out of the way so I am going to revise my guess upwards to 4.4. Just been reading through the model thread which looks gloomy - we need to remember it has been nearly 18 years since the last major wintry outbreak. That's a very long time. We have been very close on several occasions, including this one, but for various reasons, we never quite make it. We have to accept that things have changed and move on. This frosty spell represents good value for recent winters though and a December at least below the average can't be all bad. Updated list coming up.

Interesting stats as always Mr D. As to 2002, I think it was a rather strange month in many ways Nothing spectacularly cold at all if I recall correctly but several days hovering around freezing, some snow that threatened to be heavier but never quite made it, fairly cloudy and non-descript which is why it can't be recalled too easily i suspect. Could be wrong though! I will try to update the list later.

I am going with 3.7 I would just love it to be lower but hopecast as I may, I just can't see it averaging out lower than this. It depends on how long the block can last; how low the night time minima drop to and how mild it gets when the Atlantic rushes back in. At least we look like having a good chance of a colder than average January to stop the run of poor ones experienced in recent times. 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 92 0.4-C: Roger J Smith 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 60 0.5C: Matty M 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 30 1.8C: BARRY 88 1.8C: Devon-Nelly 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C:snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 87 1.9C: Polar Side 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 82 2.1C: casparjack 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 65 2.4C: snowsure 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 79 2.6C: Stu London 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 89 2.7C: Great Plum 39 2.8C: Norrance 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 69 2.9C: Nick F 86 2.9C: damianslaw 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 74 3.2C: Don 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 80 3.3C: Anti-Mild 84 3.3C: Snowyowl9 8 3.4C: pjb120 14 3.6C: The PIT 81 3.6C: SteveB 50 3.7C: derby4life 93 3.7C: ukmoose 24 3.8C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 91 3.9C: DR Hosking 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 76 4.1C: Timmead 90 4.2C: sundog 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 75 4.5C: Duncan McAlister 83 4.7C: chionomaniac 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm the Storm 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 77 5.7C: DAVID SNOW 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans 8 guesses so far below zero 32 guesses between 0 and 3 11 so far over the 71-2000 average of 4.2 Let me know of any errors and I will correct when I return.

You are correct in that the evolution of the high has meant that advection of really cold air has missed us by and large (as it usually does). My point really refers to the fact that even with easterly winds from a coldish continent, we can't get below zero at the end of December!! Night time minima are held up compared to values in previous winters and that is largely why, in my opinion, we can't, seeminlgy, return a low cet anymore - (3 or below).

Once again, (and I hate to harp on about it) but one can't fail to notice how the night time minima have scuppered any chance of December returning a really low cet. We've had two cold spells with a mild interlude in between. We've had some cold days (two or three degrees above zero on a couple of occasions, quite a lot at only 4 or 5 and the milder period was relatively short. But this present cold spell sums up the problem. Here we are with an anti cyclone sitting to our north east in a classic position feeding in 'cold' (admittedly not very cold) continental air and the temperature at night can hardly get below freezing even when it is forecast to. Last night was not even cold enough here for a layer of ice on our very shallow bird bath!! Quite a lot of cloud around and the air is dry with a slight breeze, but come on, in the past we would have had quite a few nights at -4 or -5 at the very least. I'd be quite surprised if we've managed - 1 here these past few nights even though the days have been cold. Hardly any difference between the two and therein lies the problem for achieving a very low cet. If that can't change there is no chance of a sub 3 cet let alone lower than that I would say.

A cold month - certainly colder than I thought we would get. But still no sub 3 month...

Latest update for January's CET 59 1.6-C: Timbo 16 1.5-C: TEITS 55 1.3-C: paul tall 56 1.0-C: SNOW-HEATWAVE-YES 20 0.6-C: Snowstorm1 57 0.3-C: suffolkboy 17 0.1-C: trickydicky 11 0C: wellington boot 29 0C: Snowmad79 62 0C: BUSHY 60 0.5C: Matty M 4 0.9C: Pete Tattum 61 0.9C: stewfox 58 1.0C: dice48 33 1.3C:James M 12 1.7C: SNOWPLOUGH 30 1.8C: BARRY 5 1.9C: adamjones416 7 1.9C:snowingman 67 1.9C: Terminal Moraine 68 1.9C: Gavin P 18 2.0C: Polar Gael 15 2.2C: Cal 19 2.2C: memories of 63 65 2.4C: snowsure 10 2.6C: tcc 70 2.6C: North Sea Snow Convection 2 2.7C: nick2702 54 2.7C: stormchaser1 39 2.8C: Norrance 38 2.9C: snowmaiden 43 2.9C: Potent Gust 69 2.9C: Nick F 36 3.0C: mike Meehan 44 3.0C: Bobd29 48 3.0C: Rollo 32 3.1C: themusicland 66 3.1C: Mr Data 3 3.2C: TOMB RAIDER LEGEND 13 3.2C: BarnetBlizzard 41 3.2C: swfc 26 3.3C: V for Very Cold 42 3.3C: Calum 8 3.4C: pjb120 14 3.6C: The PIT 50 3.7C: derby4life 24 3.8C: RAIN RAIN RAIN 6 3.9C: JUST BEFORE DAWN 28 3.9C: The watcher watcher 51 4.0C: jimben 53 4.0C: shuggee 35 4.4C: brassmonkeyman 9 4.9C: SteveB 52 5.2C: The calm before the storm the Storm 47 5.3C: Summer of 95 25 5.5C: mark forster 630 45 5.8C: Supercell 46 5.9C: Optimus Prime 22 6.4C: Mike W 40 8.0C: Craig Evans No less than 7 members going for a sub-zero cet and three for the big zero. 33 so far plumping for a sub 3 month even though it has been a number of years since we achieved one. Hmmm

Ah, but since then, much thicker ear muffs and considerably darker glasses are worn by all rampers south of Grampian. The SATSIGS police have been unable to cut off the supply. Definitely still at level 3 and heading upwards.

ok back from the Christmas break - I'll update the list later. Can we really be heading for a sub 3 month?? After all these years?

Great to see the return of SATSIGS - wouldn't be a proper winter without it. I can see lots of ramps towards the top end of the scale, but have a nagging doubt that they will not bear much in the way of fruit, except maybe the odd pear. Keep the ramps coming though I say.

yes indeed - sorry! Have done so now.