Jan 87
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This is mad, I can't believe how quick its settled. How long is this suppose to last?
Should be nearly finished looking at the radar. What are Steve M's thought on what will happen later tonight. Will it pivot back and will it be snow?
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Simply amazing. The snow is really coming down harder and settling like hell
Yes, but it will finish soon. Hope the front pivots back later
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Not such a good FI and shows how it could go wrong if the jet doesnt quite play ball, but the trend is still ok and a few hundred miles either way will make a huge difference. At the moment I would say a breakdown around Xmas day but if the low stalls and pushes east, then we could even see snow in the south
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blowtorch Xmas but could easily end up with another easterly. Likely to be a huge ensemble spread
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Getting messy now. May breakdown for Xmas but no point looking too closely at the detail. The overall trend is ok
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some very low overnight temps are possible with snow cover. Record breakers are possible for central and southern England not to mention elsewhere
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We need that Atlantic ridge too keep building. Crucial period now
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Block looking stronger. Should be a better FI
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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3001.png
LOL! A 1963 type of run. We can go to bed happy
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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png
Very different FI. Another High builds and keeps it cold over Xmas.
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Midday temps Sat-
Anyone want to throw the Marginal curve ball at me again-
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs1384.gif
yes thats -3 MAX in the HIGH res @ 138.....
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Yes, no point worrying about a breakdown beyond 168, when there is so much to focus right now.
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We have a few cms mainly on cold surfaces. Looks like a final batch coming in on the radar, might just miss us to the east. Hope this is not the last snow we see this year!
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snow started here. lot more to come by looks of the radar! could be some real problems for rush hour if it settles
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still rain here. UKMO is awful, spolier shortwave near iceland. lets hope it hasnt picked a new trend.
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Paul I may be wrong but I suspect the low & subsequent PPN may be on a slightly southerly track & also looking at the surface obs snow MAY be earlier & more widespread than first thought-
What do you think?
as for the ensembles- still concerning wrt the operational
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Yes, the higher res operationals are picking up those bloody shortwaves near Iceland. We might get away with it like ECM shows but I'm a bit worried
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It must be a little frustrating in certain areas of the se to see the same places which have had lots of snow have more again with the Channel Low at the moment looking a little too far north. These features are always notoriously difficult to model with the track changing right upto the last minute so don't throw the towel in just yet. Even if the low does go a little too far north theres still a chance that as it clears eastwards there could be some backedge snow.
Its better to have low expectations, then we wont be disappointed like last thurs and fri.
This is a nowcast event. The low could easly track 100 miles further south or north.
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Temp 1.9 dp 0.7 Its getting there slowly,i know we run the risk south east of london of the ppn fizzling out but any thing sooner would be rain anyhows,i wonder if the small disturbance east of Scotland holds itself together whether it will come down the North sea?
That would only get here by tomorrow morning if at all.
That stuff to the SW is what we should be looking at now. It might shift east along the south coast or move NE towards London
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developing cell moving nw through surrey now.
Also that stuff off the IOW needs watching
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Well as I see It.
Precip now still moving North, Some Precip towards the North West of our Region will Pivot back SE'Wards and Fragment and die off, Skies Clearing tonight to leave a Harsh Frost.
Met Office still warning and expect those to come down as the day wears on.
That good enough Smurf ??
What about that stuff to the SW? Where is that going to go. Some convection seems to be taking place
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If you look at the radar, something is developing right now to the SW and ppn popping up from nowhere.
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Hi stewfox,
I think I reacted to the Meto updated warning for London/Surrey re. ppn arriving early afternoon, in this area.
But having looked at GFS pressure charts colder air cant really return south of the Thames until low pressure over France moves east of the Greenwich meridian, which it doesnt seem to do until after 6 p.m and by that time ppn may well start to fizzle out anyway, if not before. Hope I'm wrong, big time.
Regards,
Tom.
Dont give up yet, It might pivot and move back south. Also stuff moving up from the SW which may pivot. Also a polar low east of Scotland which may develop into something tomorrow
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If the storm is further inland than expected then presumably it will hit further to west of Greenland, and so better for us down the line?
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Its when John motson assists with the commentary......
Stadium effect
LOL! thanks steve
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Stadium effect is certainly evident.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but what is the stadium effect?
thanks
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If it lasts till 6, we could have a few inches. The main road outside is almost impassable already!