Nick L

But if we are going to have an exceptionally mild December then there will have to be one hell of a collapse in the model predictions.

Absolutely, the death of the christmas pudding is upon us. But the Met Office forecast IMO suggests that anything is possible!

Yes I would agree with that assessment. Although we may not get a proper white Xmas (where snow falls on the day), there should be some snow on the ground for many.

I think that is a fair sum up of the coming period. Certainly is a trend for a less cold Christmas, but not necessarily mild. I think in a nutshell that forecast says snow is possible just about anywhere.

Getting a little bit interesting now

Met Office are certainly taking their time with the outlook update today!

It's because - like us - they ain't got a clue!

That's old news, check the update date.

Are you sure?!

It never showed any -10c! The -10 line is well out into Eastern Europe, you are misleading people. http://209.197.11.166/c9s4a5k3/cds/gfsimages/gfs.20091211/06/96/h850t850eu.png?dopvhost=charts.netweather.tv&doppl=0cb4ec154790309847c030c896053b8347c030e9&dopsig=fe57a864b984141eeb5c77a7adba7dca

The thing is though, they were never predicting -10c on Friday... Friday 06z http://charts.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20091211/06/96/h850t850eu.png Sunday 06z http://charts.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20091213/06/45/h850t850eu.png Not THAT much change, at least not as much as you suggest.

Oh I was on about Netweather repeatedly dying. The repeated posts were quite funny actually! :winky:

Several times, was very annoying!

I will answer every single "will it snow" question: Probably There you go!

I didn't say I never posted crap, I accept some of the blame

Will the moaning brigade please take a look at the ECM...thank you! http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=72&mode=1&map=0 If you come back complaining that this run isn't good enough then I despair!

Is everything OK now? Good...ECM is stunning, this really puts the cat amongst the pigeons: http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/run/ECM1-120.GIF?12-0 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/run/ECM1-144.GIF?12-0 That would almost certainly bring snow.

Jeez Mark, what happened there?!

Netweather obviously having an allergic reaction to some of the crap posted on here today :lol: Let's hope the ECM will silence the doubters for about 20 minutes.

Ah you have my sincerest apologies then! Sarcasm doesn't translate well through the internet unfortunately!

I presume you are a wind up merchant with your signature?

Don't take any notice of the precipitation predictions this far out. The GFS will sort that out nearer the time. Get the cold first, then worry about precipitation. It will pop up out of nowhere nearer the time.

There is a fine line though between separating good and bad posts and isolating new members who genuinely want to learn and develop their knowledge. We have to be careful not to do the latter. However, I think we do need a new restricted thread where respected, knowledgeable members can post their thoughts. That way someone who is in a hurry can read a few of the latest comments on there rather than sift through some of the garbage we are seeing in the model thread in the last few days. There are certain members on this forum who post ultra negative/ultra positive comments in the model thread simply to get a reaction, something needs to be done about these as well, but that's for another discussion.

I think I just heard him explode with excitement

+96 isn't exactly FI, and that is where the tap starts to turn.