Nick L

Usually quite late, should be up about 10ish I would have thought.

It's FI - Fantasy Island

When you get a huge dumping of snow, I want you to build a snowman, stand next to it and hold up a sign saying "I am a numpty" and take a photo of it as a punishment for your pessimism

Not cold?! It felt bloody freezing outside! Max of 4c in December is cold by Met Office definitions.

Had some sleet already this evening, but I have the advantage of some form of altitude - 150m. Should get something decent by the weekend. But hey, at least it isn't mild.

If we had a January 2004 I would be very happy indeed. That was fantastic. As you say, our best friend the Cheshire Gap could help us once again. Liking the 12z thus far.

Our best snows from northerlies come from those "unexpected" events - the trough popping up that nobody foresaw. Those are the best kind of snow events, you expect nothing and get a lot! It will all come down to now-casting as per usual. Well it would be boring if everything was sorted days in advance, where's the excitement in that?

Afternoon my fellow Midlands dwellers! Looking forward to all our frustrations and near misses that we seem to have every single sodding northerly outbreak. Felt bloody cold today though, 4c but it felt much colder than that!

Unfortunately it will probably be a typical northerly for the vast majority of us. And for central areas that isn't good!

Indeed, I hope those moaning Scots from a few days ago are now happy, they will get pasted. They always get everything! I think cold and dry best sums up the next 7 days for those who don't live in the northern third of the country or on exposed coasts. Might be some wintry flurries elsewhere but like you said - not much to get excited about.

That simply is not acceptable. Did they not learn ANY lessons from February? It's not as if they haven't had enough time to build up the reserves, they have had all summer. Anyway. 4c here, dew point is plummeting though, dropped from 1.9c to 1.4c in the last hour. Any precipitation that makes it this far inland could be a bit wintry.

Having that attitude is hardly going to get people to answer it is it?

If I had a pound for every time somebody said this after seeing one run I would be a very rich person...

Getting into the teens by Sunday though...negative teens. Could be seeing some very cold temperatures going by the 18z: http://charts.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20091213/18/168/ukmintemp.png Maximums of -5c in the north on Sunday as well... http://charts.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20091213/18/162/ukmaxtemp.png

And then magically reappears again...very strange...

The sense of perspective in here is absolutely non-existant. The comment "Absolute shocker of a run" just sums up the insanity on this thread. You want absolute shocker? Let us delve into the archives of winters past... http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2007/Rrea00120070115.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2003/Rrea00120030126.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/1998/Rrea00119980213.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2004/Rrea00120040203.gif Then compare it to what ECM is showing at +168... http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.gif Some on here need to get a grip.

Not particularly, well outside the reliable timeframe, and the possibilities keep flipping from one extreme to the other. Far too early to tell yet!

That chart is from Friday.

It isn't right. I am not sure what it means exactly, but very generally yellows and oranges usually represent high pressure, blues etc. are present with low pressure. That is a very crude explanation and there are others on here who know way more than me.

What a daft post. Those charts are fantastic. Belting easterly followed by a promising northerly. Please don't drag this thread down to the depths it went to last night.

Cheers for that, I think they know as much as we do about what will happen on Thurs and Fri - not a lot!

Good luck with Oxford. A Geography degree from there will open a lot of promising routes! Reading do a Meteorology course with a Science Foundation year for those who aren't quite up to scratch with their physics, so there are possibilities.

Argh what happened to it? Countryfile is on a Sunday night...or so I thought.

I don't know, at least it will stop me from pulling my hair out That isn't me asking to be banned by the way I have to admit, I am amazed at the lack of sensational headline in the usual rubbish newspapers. I would have thought the Daily Express would be predicting The Day After Tomorrow. And the first snowflakes have appeared on the Met Office maps for Thursday: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

The countryfile forecast tonight will certainly be interesting :unsure: