Nick L
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As expected, warmer than average, slightly sunnier than average and around average rainfall around here. Not too shabby.
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A passable summer overall in my eyes. June was excellent, with weeks of very warm sunshine but never really uncomfortable. July was dreadful. August has been alright. One big downer for me is the lack of decent thunderstorms, although it wasn't completely devoid of them like some recent hot summers.
Edit: I think reasonable was over-egging the optimism.
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14 minutes ago, danm said:
Bit of a grotty day today, but lovely period of weather coming up...
Quite possibly the best week of weather since June.
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1 hour ago, al78 said:
LOL.
Want to add something constructive to your reply or just that childish retort?
We get huge variations in light levels and nature from one season to the next and I personally believe we're lucky. I would hate to live somewhere where it's the same throughout the year.
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Lovely day with a hint of Autumn.
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1 minute ago, Frost said:
Did anyone else notice the orangey sunlight yesterday? Smoke in the atmosphere?
I believe there's smoke drifting in from Canada.
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Bring on September warmth I say. It takes a hell of a lot for warmth to be unpleasant in September, and with the long nights it means it actually cools down that bit more. Lovely month. And all the feral kids are back in
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1 hour ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
For my location and many others I have got a real fear summer is going to come out as average for sun, rainfall and temps might be at least 1.5c higher than average for max temps given how lovely June was. I've done a very rough calculation in my head and overall rainfall, sunshine look about average, temp above, June has really bumped things up from what was a very poor July and slightly below average August....talk about gaslit lol
Using the 1991-2010 averages
For my location
June:
Max Temperature average is 20c, we averaged 23.5 (3.5c higher)
Sunshine average is 194.7, we had 264 hours of sunshine
Rainfall average is 53.8. we received 13.6mm
July
Max temp average is 21.8c, we averaged 20.5 (1.3 below average)
Sunshine average is 193.8, we had 143.6 hours
Rainfall average is 48.2. we received 99.2mm
August
Max Temperature average is 21.6c, we are currently averaging 21.2 but will be lower than that given the forecasted temps for the last few days of august (0.4c below so far)
Sunshine average is 171.8, so far we are on 143.8 and I doubt we will reach 150 hours
Rainfall average is 64.1, we have currently received 38mm with more on the way for the last day of August
Just goes to show averages don’t tell the whole experience unless they are extreme one way or the other
My apologies to @Nick L who insisted it would come out as average and I insisted it wouldn't, you were correct thanks to an exceptional June bumping the figures up so much
Not easy to publicly apologise so thank you. The two months definitely cancelled each other out. I do wonder how public perception would have changed if June and July were swapped.
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Can we please keep Covid talk to the (for some reason, still active) Covid threads? Most of us just want to talk about the weather.
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1 minute ago, Tidal Wave said:Well its certainly lovely and fresh out there this evening. Sunsets getting earlier and earlier, we have done bloody well this summer overall...probably nearly as good as it can get to be honest. More of the same next year please!
Hopefully there's still some pleasant days to come but not long until the equinox now.
It's been a great summer for avoiding unpleasant heat. June was superb for the most part, rarely got uncomfortable. Having numerous days of widespread 30C+ in this country is not the norm and it's nice to have a more normal summer.
The Autumnal feeling is now creeping in and I'm all for it. We're lucky to have such defined seasons.
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25 minutes ago, stainesbloke said:
Didn’t take long to go back to ‘green and pleasant’. It never does after an unusual dry spell, funnily enough
That's why it does my head in seeing people waste water on lawns after a few weeks of hot weather!
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3 minutes ago, B87 said:
I assume an average summer month would score 5/10?
For London...
June: 8/10 - early month was still quite chilly, plus the month ended up wetter than average.
July: 2/10 - below average temps both day and night, well above average rainfall, dullest July for 31 years.
August: 5/10 (so far) - average temps, rainfall and sunshine. If it rains again this month, or if the month fails to get to 200 sun hours, it will drop to a 4.
15/30? At the risk of infuriating some, an overall average summer!
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18 minutes ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:
Interesting, do you mean in terms of UV?
So by all accounts...May sun is stronger than August sun, despite the latter being Summer" and former Spring, and temps generally always higher in August than May, and definitely than April.
Danm has pretty much explained but yeah, the sun angle at this time of year is the equivalent of what it would be on 20th April. People often get caught out with the sun strength in April, I easily burn at that time of year!
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7 minutes ago, Wightweather said:
Yes, this. The intensity just isn't there.
Sun is the same strength today as it would be on 20th April. Impressive how quickly the intensity drops off at this time of year.
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This has to be a perfect summer's day. Shame I'm stuck in an office!
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3 minutes ago, Woollymummy said:
Serious help needed: off to Shrewsbury Folk Festival by train on Friday, minimal camping for a change as no car, limited ability to haul stuff: Forecast page shows no rain, GFS precipitation model shows plenty of rain. Who is correct, and what should I pack?
many thanks in advance for any advice
Take waterproofs. Won't be a washout but there will be heavy showers around for much of the weekend.
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13 hours ago, Methuselah said:
You know what? I couldn't a fork as to what 1912 was about!
Bit unnecessary. I find these historic threads interesting and many of us appreciate the efforts.
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1 minute ago, MP-R said:
Mostly cloudy but mid to high level cloud this morning. If the forecast is right, this should transfer north by midday and become sunny.
Both EC and UKV have it clearing nicely for all areas roughly south of a line from Bristol to Peterborough. I do feel for those in Wales over the last week with how nice it's been further SE.
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Today is a great example of why I love warm spells in late August/into September. You can easily get very pleasant days, but the sun is less strong and the mornings tend to be fresh. Plus there isn't sunlight streaming in through the curtains before 5am!
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23.8C max here today, not quite the 23.9C of yesterday though.
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Slightly depressing thought is that this is looking like the last week of widespread mid-20s for a while, perhaps for the rest of the year. Looking like returning to, at best, average temps after this warm spell for the foreseeable.
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5 minutes ago, CryoraptorA303 said:
Here in the SE, July was actually overall only somewhat wetter than average, and was almost bang on the 1991-2020 mean temperature. This is literally the definition of normal weather, I'm not really sure what else to tell you. Most of the actual wetness happened in the NW, which I will accept as being less typical, but still far more so than some of the heatwaves of late.
Maybe in recent heatwaves, but going back into historical records, this is not typical. A day or two of around 30C can be expected in the south every summer, but several days is not normal, especially consecutively. I hope I don't have to mention that the recent temperatures in excess of 35C that have been experienced in heatwaves of the past few years are certainly not typical.
Better yet, we did pass that threshold in June. Somewhere in the country recorded a temperature in excess of 30C for around a week, IIRC. Chertsey on the 10th, Kew Gardens on the 11th, and then a few places further northwest every day after that. I think Wiggonholt in West Sussex also had one. Even Porthmadog reached over 30C one day, which is not common at all.
The overall maximum temperature for 2023 (so far, of course, you never know) is 32.2C, jointly recorded at Chertsey and Coningsby on different days in June. Looking at records going back to 1900, this is well within the expected average maximum in this period. Maxima much above this remained relatively uncommon until around 30 years ago, and even then, years that do not achieve these newer extremes are bound to happen.
I am not sure how else to spell this out; the British climate is nowhere near as warm or sunny as you think it's supposed to be.
Yeah for E and SE England it was less bad than elsewhere for sure, but the deluge elsewhere wasn't just confined to the NW:
And agreed regarding the 30C days. That's exactly the point many of us are trying to make. It never used to be the norm that we would be guaranteed multiple 30C days each summer, it used to be pretty noteworthy but the goalposts have shifted so far in the last 10 years or so that it may as well be a different sport altogether. 35C has become the new 30C in recent years for being the benchmark of noteworthy warmth.
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1 minute ago, Addicks Fan 1981 said:
@mushymanrobsaid in the other thread that the weather at weekends has skewed peoples perception of this summer and he's right on all accord. Would love to hear his input here.
Probably true to some extent. I'm a shift worker so I don't really have much to do with weekends a lot of the time.
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Just now, MP-R said:
He stepped into the wrong thread... don't rise to it.
Looks like it's a much better day down your way today?
It's a summer chat thread, it's a perfectly acceptable post. If you think it's worth reporting, you know where the button is. Otherwise, let's cut out the gatekeeping.
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September 2023 C.E.T. and EWP forecast contests
in Spring Weather Discussion
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And those who deny the climate is warming can't even trot out the gormless line of "it's called summer!".