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The EC for next week has dew points of 26C in the south. That has to smash a record if there is one kept. I've rarely experienced that even when storm chasing in the US. Would feel utterly disgusting!
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Going to spend an afternoon in a beer garden rather than moaning that the warm spell isn't long enough. This is exactly what happens in the winter with cold spells!
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For the south this is looking like being a surprisingly prolonged good spell of weather. Mostly dry with temperatures consistently reaching the low to mid 20s for the next 7-10 days, a few days with some showers but no wash outs.
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2 minutes ago, SunnyG said:
It's pathetic how bad they have become at adjusting their algorithms or whatever they use for their silly weather apps. All are agreed that it is raining now (which it isn't) and none had predicted it would get so cool again. It's so depressing that most of the Northern Hemisphere is basking in hot summer temps and has been for weeks while we are yet again contending with greyness and cold. The end of this awful year can't come too soon as far as I am concerned.
In fairness, they'll be looking at the radar which suggests it is.
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Once you've experienced proper storms in the US, anything the UK offers just does not cut it!
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14C at 11am in August. Bloody hell.
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44 minutes ago, cheese said:
Looks like the wet July had a negative impact on retail sales
Wet weather dampened clothing sales in July
WWW.BBC.CO.UKUK retail sales growth slowed to 1.5% in July after rain put shoppers off buying summery items.I've always found this peculiar that people are less likely to spend time in shopping centres when the weather is crap outside. I couldn't think of anything worse on a lovely day than to spend it trudging around shops.
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8 minutes ago, Sunny76 said:
Won’t as ridiculous if they come to pass though.
Predicting that we won't have temperatures below 10C is both ridiculous and not going to happen. No different to someone marching into the summer thread before the season starts and predicts we won't have any days above 20C.
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21 minutes ago, MATTWOLVES 3 said:Mate there is know forecasting tools available out there that can make you call out how the weather will be in 4 months time! Your just 2nd guessing how things will play out and the fact that the law of averages means it more likely to be milder than colder! So there is no point in any of us coming back to congratulate you in February if you got it correct.
Also to complile a forecast based on setting the bar really low to avoid disappointment is ridiculous. If the long range models point to colder than average right now...they may be wrong....if the models point to warmer than average,they may also be wrong!
Ask any pro forecaster what the weather is gonna be like in 2 or so weeks and they will tell you its a little to far out to be sure! So to say temps are not gonna drop below 10c 4 months from now,with this pattern continuing for the next 3 months is pure jackanory!
Well said. Ridiculous and unfounded predictions.
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A mostly pleasant week to come by the looks of it. I would advise people get off the forum and actually go outdoors
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There we go, amber warning the night before. No reason that couldn't have been issued this morning.
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6 minutes ago, Metwatch said:
Did think we would go through a whole season without seeing a Met Office named storm, (from the UK / Ireland / Netherlands list) we were getting close before the next season. Would have been nice to get a new stat quirk after the 13th June enigma was broken earlier in the summer.
Doesn't look to be that impactful up here in the Midlands, just expecting another wet day.
I'll be visiting home in Cannock tomorrow, will be weird it being so calm as the centre of the low moves across while Wales and SW England get battered! Will be a thoroughly miserable today and pretty exceptionally cold too.
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5 minutes ago, HafrenLMP1 said:
There are some long gaps between Bank Holidays, and yet some are clustered together. 3 months between May Whit, and end of August, then another longer period until Christmas....Really needs one, or two in the autumn; it's not like we have loads compared to other nations.
This year was particularly weird. We had Easter, the Coronation, May Day and late spring bank holidays - that's 5 of them - in 7 weeks. Then just one between those and Christmas.
I think better would be to bin off one of the spring ones, have it in September when the weather can still be reasonable, and move the late August one to mid-summer.
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Just now, snefnug said:
According to METO storm forecast on YouTube, the warning is primarily because of the impact, Aiden kept emphasising school holidays, camping, out door events etc, as opposed to damaging gusts ripping up trees, so have they changed the criteria for this storm, at this time of year?
I would argue this is even more reason to have an amber warning.
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3 minutes ago, wimblettben said:
Hang on, is that for inland areas?
Quite worrying if thats the case, I can say right now with trees in leaf, winds of that level are going to bring a lot of trees down.
EC, UKV and UKMO all have gusts of 60+mph well inland for Devon in particular. There is strong model consensus for damaging winds here, and I don't understand why it's only a yellow.
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1 minute ago, Liam Burge said:
Yes, I believe that they will issue an Amber warning sometime later, as they have just increased the Impact Matrix to one below the Amber warning threshold, so once models get a better idea of where this will hit I believe that they'll do an amber warning.
Looking at the latest UKV, looks like Exeter could see some quite damaging gusts.
It'll be tomorrow morning when it's too late. Just like they did with Eunice.
There is good enough model agreement for gusts of 60+ in SW England and Wales. That alone warrants an amber IMO, especially with all the holidaymakers and trees in full leaf. One day I'll give up trying to understand their thought processes.
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11 minutes ago, A Face like Thunder said:
Correct me I'm wrong, but was it not the French authorities who labelled it Storm Antoni whilst the yellow weather warning would have come from our authorities?
Definitely the Met Office...
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"A storm will be named when it has the potential to cause an amber or red warning"
So based on that, either they're going against their own criteria or they'll upgrade it to amber as the event is happening by which point it's too late to take notice of it anyway
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3 minutes ago, A Face like Thunder said:
Correct me I'm wrong, but was it not the French authorities who labelled it Storm Antoni whilst the yellow weather warning would have come from our authorities?
France don't use the same names we do. Antoni is from the UK/Ireland/Netherlands list. So one of those 3 agencies named it, and I'm pretty sure it was the Met Office.
The whole thing is just a confusing, frustrating mess and I wish it would be binned.
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Wait, I thought the threshold for naming a storm was an amber warning? They're just making it up as they go along.
Edit: No idea why it's only a yellow warning. SW England could easily see gusts in excess of 70mph, which at this time of year could be seriously damaging.
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5 minutes ago, cheese said:
I think September has better weather than June on average.
Agreed. One of my favourite months. You can get very pleasant weather without it being too hot, I'm less likely to get sun burned, the daylight hours are more sensible (i.e. no dawn chorus at 4am). Plus the kids are back at school so public places aren't like war zones
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1 minute ago, cheese said:
Is it?
Perhaps that's an exaggeration, although the sun strength and daylight hours are equivalent to mid-April by that point. But my general point still stands. I don't understand why the solitary summer bank holiday is at the dying end of the season. At the very least move one of the cluster of spring bank holidays into mid-summer.
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I've always found it daft that the August bank holiday is at the end of the month, as the end of August more often than not is more Autumnal than summery. We have a yawning chasm between the spring bank holidays and the end of summer. Why not move the summer bank holiday to early/mid July?
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42 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:
It makes you wonder how in my mum and dads era of 1947/63 winters they managed !
Based on the 1963 documentary done the year after and the huge knock-on effect on the economy from those winters, they didn't. This "we coped better in the good old days" is pish.
Not just the winters either. Standpipes in the summer of 76 as well for example.
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The worst combined spring/summer seasons on record
in Historic Weather
Posted · Edited by Nick L
As I've said before, it's like labelling the winter of 2010/11 dreadful from a coldies perspective.
There has been a 3 week spell in July which was dreadful, no getting away from that. But June was exceptional, you will struggle to get a better June than what we had. Now we're into a decent spell of pleasantly warm weather in the summer holidays. Anyone claiming that this summer is anywhere near one of the worst needs a reality check.