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Posts posted by SussexmarkyMark
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Every good performance needs a grand finale. And we are certainly getting that! Close to 8 inches now.
Which part of Brighton are you in ? I'm in one of the hillier areas and we have about 8cm. I think 8 inches is about 20cm !
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And it's started to snow more heavily again
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Talking of Brighton (in reply to earlier post and as i am here and not in Newbury!) - it is still fairly wet snow no? but I think the temps are dropping. What is the outlook here am getting really confused........
Fairly wet in city centre, but on all the hillier parts it's proper crunchy stuff.
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I think a reality check is needed as the vast majority of people in the South East have seen but a minor fall of snow and temperatures around freezing. Bog standard winter weather.
Kent for example is around 4200 square miles in size and very few areas have in excess of 5cms of lying snow. This was beaten in most winters during the 90's.
Media frenzy of "Epic Freeze" and alike is nothing other than sensationalism and fantasy. Television news "hysteria" is laughable in the main and causes more harm than good as it frightens the old and vulnerable into thinking things are worse than they really are. Plant a young female reporter next to a motorway with a couple of inches of snow on it and tell her to fill us with stories of stranded motorists and accidents doesnt cut it. Put her in the middle of Helmand Province in broad daylight "with the pink bobble hat" and then see what reality really is like.
I think you will find that Kent is the exception. Large areas of Hampshire, Surrey and West Sussex have over 20cm of snow. Certainly not bog standard !
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Thats the trouble with living on the coast!
I think later in the night when the wind swings more towards the east, it will change back. Can't complain though, already had five days of lying snow pre -Christmas.
Turning more to snow again now as it gets heavier
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4cm of snow and now heavy rain ! Temperature up and down like a yo-yo between 0.4c and 2c
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Yeh but the flow is coming up from a cold france , whereas those areas have the thames estuary in the way
I don't think that's the reason mate, the air is circulating around a depression in the Channel, not a true southerly all the way from France !
We now have heavy graupel in amongst the softer snow.
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He was deadly serious Paul, we have an onshore flow which is really going to be an issue, in other words its pretty much the same issue the south coast has...I hope I'm far enough west away from the wider part of the thames to stay right side of marginal but we shall see...
We have an onshore flow here in Brighton too and the temperature has fallen from 2c to 0.4c in the last hour and from sleety rain we now have heavy snow and about 2cm lying
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Depends on how heavy the precip is, it is going to be somewhat marginal though because you've got a hefty onshore flow which is going to make everything that bit more marginal from the looks of things.
Thanks. I have a feeling it may well be rain to the South of the Downs. Temperature has risen to almost 3c now !
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Well this morning I had a feeling the 06Z GFS was onto something. Looking at the sat/radar and im 100% convinced the heavy band of snow will hit Sussex into London. This will then move N (uncertain how much) during the night and affect Herts, Beds, Bucks then into parts of the E Midlands i,e Northants.
Now whilst all of this is going on a another band of snow will be moving S from the N Sea and will affect Cambs, Norfolk during the night. These two bands of snow are likely to merge before moving S to affect the rest of the region. I can see snow being persistant for much of this region for tomorrow.
Do you think it is more likely to be rain on the Sussex coast though ? I note that it is raining in the Portsmouth / Southampton area
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really dark out in tthe channel, looking at the radar, few snow showers pushing up to folkestone dover???
I think you'll find that those may well be rain showers
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? the 4km NAE did, refer to the graphic I posted yesterday showing the predicted streamlines and convergence zone forecast.
New UKMO modified fields tells the story into Wed, or at least the suggestive version...
Is there any chance you could interpret that a little please, as I'm not sure what all the colours mean ? Not helped by the fact that I'm colour-blind ! Thanks
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to be honest its not that confusing no one and that includes meto really knows how much snow will fall on what day this is were the saying radar watching comes into the equation
You misunderstand. I'm not confused about the quantity of snow. I was confused by the fact that the NetWeather site said almost zero snow (based on the GFS) and the previous poster was expecting travel problems (based on the GFS output). There is only one GFS output, so it can only be showing one thing.
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See I'd call that a solid NE airflow in terms of actual compass bearings...however I do agree with your basic point. I'm actually meant to be going to Guildford between the 7-9th so will be most interesting to see what comes off. The set-up progged by both the GFS and the ECM would make it a difficult, if not dangerous journey home however it has to be said.
I'm pretty confident as well that flow would give several troughs as well, its basically a cyclonic flow and indeed both the GFS/ECM try and develop a secondary depression as well which at the very least could pep up convection, at the very most bring in a frontal system of its own...
I have to say I'm finding this all a bit confusing. The netweather 10 day outlook (which I believe is from the GFS output) whilst showing over 90% chance of snow for Brighton on most days this week (including tomorrow), the actual quantity is shown at just 1 or 2 mm - not enough to cause any problem at all. At the same time, you say that GFS suggests travel would be difficult in the SE for 7-9th, or do you believe it is just an EA, Essex, Kent event ?
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It's simply to do with how far North the mild air gets before being pushed back South, subsequent runs will chop and change this boundary line; I think the double figure numbers will not extend as far North as the GFS 0z shows - either way the mild air won't be winning.
That wasn't really the point I was making. I was responding to a post that was commenting that they couldn't see any mild, so I was just showing him where it was. Certainly the trend over recent days has to increase the temperatures over the South early next week and delay the return of the cold.
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I think I've 'pinned' it??
But, I agree, the recent outputs have been stunning...Where are the 'dowgrades' some folks were talking about?
There's not much sign anything particularly mild, as far as I can see...
A bit of a 'downgrade' for the south of the UK. Only a couple of days ago GFS was showing 3 or 4 c for early next week, now into double figures!
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I'm confused now. I thought the high 'couldn't sink'. Looks like it's doing just that to me with westerlies just north of Scotland
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Phew what a scorcher. We've now hit 8c !!
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The temperature has dropped from a peak of 5c just before noon to just 2.3c now. Heavy rain continues to be mixed with soft slushy hail, which is now being deposited on many surfaces.
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Torrential rain here has now turned to hail and is settling on cars.
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We have 6 inches of snow in Brighton after periods of persistent snow overnight. The most remarkable fall was in blizzard like conditions between 11pm and midnight last night when over 2 inches fell.
I concur with that. Just measured 17cm level snow in back garden. Between 11pm and midnight last night it was A-maze-ing !
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Still snowing heavily in Brighton and some good accummulation. Quite gusty winds too, so starting to drift a bit
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I'm in the same area as you and was up on the top of Race Hill earlier. About 10cm up there, but I agree 8 inches (20cm) of lying snow in Brighton seems a little unlikely