johnholmes

Hi Dry if rather cloudy with no wind. Min was 2.8C and just missed a ground frost. November data going into November CET post.

lovely day now, temp around 7-8C, lots of blue sky and only a light wind. Is it really almost December?

morning still not an air frost, min Ps0.5C but a really white frost, slight breeze from the south. nSuperb sunrise with various cloud and contrail effects.

till above zero but white frost on all the cars by 10pm, currently Ps1.1C but MS1.1 on the ground.. Clear sky.

hi again Just worked out my Mean temp for the month so far; including yesterday is 8.9C, some 2.4C above the long term average, but dry, only 16.0mm so far. Still a couple of days to go but if the mean temp stays much the same then it will be the highest I've recorded in the back garden since I started in Jan 1997. Not sure about the long term value for this area.

morning Min of 2.4C with a fair amount of cloud and no wind.

Hi Tm 4 oktas altocumulus perlucidus and cumulus humilis very impressive

hi finally dry with a brief glimpse of the sun as it sets on a breezy and rather cold afternoon.

morning still a little rain with a moderate northerly breeze. Pressure now starting to rise. Min temp 5.4C currently on 6.2C

hi cloudy now after being clear during the first oart of the night. Light wind and temp up to 6C after a min of 4C

Hi Tm tks for that, yep know the area, walked, biked in my younger days around there. It sure is pretty exposed. Talking of digging tunnels as a kid I do remember 1947. We had an outside loo, several mornings my father had to dig a way to it from our back door, only a matter of 2-3 yards along the same wall, and it was quite often way above my head. The house faced north with a sort of open box on 3 sides with houses, so with anything from the north or north east it just used to swirl around and plaster all the back of the house. A pity no one ever took photos in those days. cheers

very impressive, or 'orrible, depending on one's love or hate of bitter cold and snow. Just where in the Peak District do you live? Your figures are nearly as bad as mine for Feb 1963 and that was an incredible winter. Well it was on low ground and even more so about 500 feet up at my parent's house. I shudder to think what your conditions would have been like in the winter of 62/3. Have you got any idea, from any other source perhaps? cheers

morning spits and spots of rain in the early hours and again around 8.30am but dry now with a few bits of blue, a light s'ly breeze and temp of 9.7C after a min of 8.1C. when/IF winter arrives it is going to be a nasty shock to most of us!

Hi LL I've just been in the pub with a pal and been trying to explain just what it was like to experience Ms 15C, and also to have almost a whole WEEK with temps NEVER(excuse the capitals) even reaching zero deg C. We get really excited if it now stays below freezing for a couple of days, and if it snows as well --!! Like you LL I would not want 65 days of snow cover thank you very much. I will eventually put together something about 1947, I was but a little lad then honest! Again like you say LL it really is interesting to compare your figures with mine. Thanks a lot for your work too. cheers

Hi Tm look forward to that and tks for the kind comment.

where has this been moved to please?

hello at last, thank you LL for a great 'picture' of your memories of that memorable winter. As has been said it got to the point where one longed for it to end. Here are my memories for the 1962-63 winter at a Royal Canadian Air Force Base at Langar, about 10 miles SE of Nottingham. I hope this now comes out as I find how this site arranges data very confusing. I've tried its original Excel, then word in tables, now this way. Please take time to go through it and please excuse any errors as its all had to be re-entered several times! I may do my recollections as a kid of 1947 but no data for that! Data for RCAF Langar for the 1962-1963 winters, with a comparison with 1947 Langar is about 10 miles ese of Nottingham in a slight ‘bowl’ with minor hills all around it. The diary as such starts on December 26th 1962 and finishes at the end of February 1963. It did on a number of occasions appear in the Daily Weather Report(DWR) as the coldest place in Britain(not just in this winter) General notes The ground was snow covered continuously (Met Office definition for =/>half cover) for 44 days from 26.12.62 until 8.2.63 (At my parent’s house near Chesterfield, Derbyshire that was extended until 27th February, A total of 63 days). The ground at Langar was continuously frozen from 22nd December 1962 until 4th March 1963, a total of 63 days. There was an air frost on every night, apart from 4, between 22nd December 1962 and 4th March 1963. (The only nights without frost were; 5.6.28 and 29th January) There were 32 consecutive nights with frost from 1st February 1963 to 4th March 1963. General notes on rainfall: And there was a continuous frost(air temperature constantly below 0C) from 1500Z on 18th January 1963 until 0900Z on 26th January 1963(186 hours); put another way, almost a WHOLE week!! There was 3.73 inches of rain (and melted snow) from 1 October 1962 to 28 February 1963 This = 38% of the average. Monthly figures for the start of the cold spell on 22nd December 1962 Date min max mean 22 -4.4 2.2 -1.1 23 -6.1 0.6 -2.8 24 -9.3 0.0 -4.7 25 -11.8 -3.9 -7.9 26 -11.1 2.2 -4.5 27 -1.4 1.1 -0.2 28 -7.7 -2.2 -5.0 29 -5.1 -1.7 -3.4 30 -1.7 0.0 -0.9 31 -0.6 0.6 0.0 Mean temp for 10 days = -3.0C Values for January 1963 Date min max mean 1 -0.1 0.7 0.3 2 -1.3 -0.6 -1.0 3 -0.7 0.5 -0.1 4 -0.1 1.0 0.5 5 0.6 1.1 0.9 6 1.1 1.8 1.5 7 -3.5 1.3 -1.1 8 -5.7 0.7 -2.5 9 -8.0 1.3 -3.4 10 -6.6 1.5 -2.6 11 -10.4 -5.0 -7.7 12 -5.4 -3.3 -4.4 13 -8.3 0.0 -4.2 14 -1.4 2.8 0.7 15 -7.7 2.3 -2.7 16 -2.7 0.0 -1.4 17 -9.2 -2.1 -5.7 18 -13.8 0.9 -6.5 19 -5.9 -0.3 -3.1 20 -3.3 -0.8 -2.1 21 -4.1 -1.4 -2.8 22 -13.6 -3.4 -8.5 23 -15.4 -3.3 -9.4 24 -12.2 -5.6 -8.9 25 -8.6 -0.6 -4.6 26 -6.2 5.3 -0.5 27 -3.9 2.3 -0.8 28 0.5 2.4 1.5 29 1.4 2.9 2.2 30 0.1 1.3 0.7 31 -1.7 2.5 0.4 Mean temp for month = -2.4C Values for February Date min max mean 1 -3.5 -0.7 -2.1 2 -9.8 -3.5 -6.7 3 -6.7 -4.1 -5.4 4 -10.2 1.6 -4.3 5 -8.4 0.2 -4.1 6 -3.7 -0.7 -2.2 7 -1.6 1.6 0.0 8 0.0 2.9 1.5 9 -1.7 2.9 0.6 10 -1.4 1.7 0.2 11 -1.8 0.6 -0.6 12 -0.1 2.1 1.0 13 -0.7 4.1 1.0 14 -2.6 1.7 -0.5 15 -0.1 1.2 0.6 16 -1.9 0.4 -0.8 17 -1.7 1.7 0.0 18 -1.7 2.2 0.3 19 -1.5 0.3 0.6 20 -4.8 2.6 -1.1 21 -3.9 4.1 0.1 22 -2.1 2.8 0.4 23 -2.8 1.9 -0.5 24 -6.7 0.6 -3.1 25 -9.8 2.2 -3.8 26 -5.2 4.8 -0.2 27 -4.6 2.8 -0.9 28 -3.3 5.4 1.1 Mean temp for month = -1.1C Mean temp for January and February = -1.7C Comparison of temperatures at Langar between 1947 and 1963 Year Month Avge min Avge max Mean Jan/feb mean 1947 January -1.0 3.5 1.3 1947=-0.5 1963 January -5.0 0.2 -2.4 1963=-1.6 1947 February -4.2 1.5 -2.3 1963 -3.7 1.8 -0.9 So for the two months being compared 1947 showed a mean temp of -0.5 and 1963 gave -1.7C I cannot get data for frosts and snow for 1947 but for 1963 these were; days with snow falling= 20 in Jan and 19 in Feb; lying snow=31 in Jan and 19 in Feb. Air frosts in January were 26 and 28 in February. I do remember catching 2 sometimes 3 buses to get back to my parents house. The old style double deckers with a minute so called heater at the front. Then trying to keep warm at their house, with just coal fires and no bedroom heating. With the Canadians there was central heating, so hot I only had ONE sheet on and the window open in my bedroom! happy memories I hope you all enjoy. John

morning foggy here with a temp of 6.7C, with sun trying to make its way through the murk. NB: all snow lovers see snow forecast fromPaul Gilliver?? morning Paul, hope your headache soon clears.

hi all well i've just spent one hour retyping all the stats up in word, only to discover that this forum will not accept columns of figures in the order i put them in, so back to the *****y drawing board. I will get them on here eventually.

what a mild day, the odd glimpse of the sun, no wind and a temp of 11.8C. By the way my mean temp for this month still stands 3.0C above the long term average for November; it dropped 1.0C during the last cold spell into the weekend.

morning another mild one, mostly cloudy and been a bit of drizzle overnight but dry now; temp is currently 9.6C after a min of only 9.3C. Bit different from a few days ago!

Hi LL I suspect you and I could call one another Grandad and not be far off the mark!

hi ref my comment about the 62-63 winter. Its in Excel and this forum system does not like it one bit soo I shall have to manually re-do it in another format to post it. This may take some time!

Hi LL I've got a weather diary from end Dec to end Feb 63 which I will try and post for winter 62-63. Makes interesting readin. Thanks for yours.

i've already PM'd you TM you lucky deveil, enjoy it though. Go for a walk, get the sledge out whatever.