iand61
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Currently 5.8'c here so not much chance of anything wintry falling.
It's certainly been a wild last 24 hours or so with the wind roaring throughout the night and has rained almost constantly since the early hours although it's fine at the moment.
Hopefully a change in year will bring a change in weather patterns although there is little to suggest a major shift at present.
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Hope everybody is having a good Christmas so far!
Mine was very good until it was suggested that the best way to spend the day after Boxing Day was to join many thousands of our fellow citizens in worshiping the patron saint of retail at that great cathedral called the Trafford Centre.
Never mind, all good things come to an end and now it's quiet time with a glass or three of red.
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Well there seems to be a growing feeling amongst several members that the winter(in terms of proper cold prospects I mean) is all but over.
Do you all go along with that?
And for the sake of this post not being completely off topic, very mild here today with temperatures somewhere between 13 and 14C.
Much of December 1978 including the Christmas period was very mild and yet by Boxing Day that year we were less than a week from the start of what turned out to be one of the coldest and snowiest winters on record.
not saying for a second that this winter is going to follow that same pattern but i don't think that anyone can say winter is over until we are at least chronologically beyond it. Winter 1980-81 was a very mild and almost snowless one but included probably the heaviest April snow storm on record.
IMO there is a long way to go yet.
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down to -3.4'c here now, obviously good snow cover is having an effect.
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.Just got back from Hull, no snow on the M62 after Sowerby Bridge towards Hull. The snow in Bacup is just the same as when we left at 12.00 and now its freezing hard. The surface temp on the weather station up the road says minus 4.6. Could be interesting getting my car down the drive in the morning, we had to leave husbands down on the main road, it doesn't have 4 wheel drive and skidded down on the way out at lunchtime which was very scary.
Your right Shadowfax, even though the day has been mainly sunny and hsn't felt that cold, very little of the snow which fell has melted today. I went to Rochdale this afternoon and the main road was atrocious for much of its length as are most of the side roads. I'm currently measuring -3.1'c which is our lowest so far this winter although it does seem to have bottomed out now and no doubt will start to rise as soon as the cloud rolls in.
I didn't realise how much snow had fallen until I started to clear it off the cars and drive
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Hi guys, here's a picture taken by a friend in Manchester, no idea where abouts it was taken mind you but sure looks neat!
Looks like it was taken just on the Salford side of the Irwell but not over familiar with Manchester so could be wrong.
It is a good picture though and the Pennines look fantastic under snow.
What i do know is that the start (LHS)of the picture is looking almost due north towards Bury and Ramsbottom with Scout Moor Windfarm just visible on the high ground in the distance.
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With 4 inches of snow and a single track main road it looks like our annual trip down to Manchester and the Christmas Markets are off. Oh dear i might just have to take the oportunity to go for a nice long winter walk.
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Broken cloud and sunshine here now and looking at the radar i think that's our lot with the activity veering slighly further south.
But for the slushy mess on the ground it would be a lovely afternoon.
It's not been a bad few days for most of the region but even for those with snow it's probably a far cry from the equivelant Saturday last winter when most of us were sub zero with many inches of snow on the ground and no sign of an end to the big freeze.
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Obviously altitude playing a more important role today
Altitude is certainly a major factor with lying snow today, at least in East Lancashire.
The moorland section of the drive to Burnley at 10am ish was a difficult one with almost white out conditions and snow completely covering the road yet in Burnley centre there was nothing on the ground and rain was falling.
Coming back, the snow line starts at about 1000ft with around 2 inches of snow on the sides of the road at the summit section about 1350ft ASL whilst in Bacup town centre at 850ft its just slushy.
In the years i've been taking notice of the weather there does seem to be a tendancy in Rossendale, certainly under what i would call general winter conditions for the snow line to hug the 1000ft contour as does the hill fog line.
Interestingly I did once read an article although i'm not sure whether is is based on fact which said that the building of the M62 over the Pennines was carried out in such a way as to keep the summit altitude to just below a point where the frequency of lying snow and hill fog become far greater.
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It looks like the current batch of activity for this immediate area has passed through now with a bit of sun peeping through although the satelite is showing more activity just reaching the lancashire coast so maybe some more will fall in the next hour or so. Off to Burnley now to pick something up so hopefully the road over the top is clear although i would imagine that there is a good covering at that altitude.
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A mixture of sleet and snow trying to fall at the moment in Bacup leaving a horrible wet mess outside.
There is a little bit of lying snow on the ground but only enough to give nuisance value although it looks like the main snow line is only slightly higher up the hill at about 1100ft. The temperature has dropped back slighly and is now reading 0.6'c from 1'c at 7.15am.
All in all, not a nice morning.
edit - snowing really hard now with big flakes and sticking but can't see it lasting to long.
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BBC appear to have lost the plot. That graphic shows snow right near Anglesey & Caernarfon which feels the force of the Irish Sea and are at sea level, yet rain 30 miles inland in England?
And yep, DP's were above 0C, so the snow was wet-ish and was allowed to pick up lots of moisture as it fell, making them massive!
i don't think that the conditions of the last couple of days have allowed for sensible and accurate forecasting to take place and that the BBC are just edging their bets to cover the possible outcomes.
Last nights forecast said rain to low levels but with substantial snow possible over the Pennines.
In our locality the oposite happened. At 950 feet asl we did get the precipitation but it was virtually all rain whilst 400 feet lower and 10 miles SW it was mainly snow.
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Half melted snow now and froze pavements are a nightmare.
No grit proves the inadequency of £2billion METO computers (which we have all paid for out of our taxes) that can't predict the behaviour of a streamer.
Great Streamer over a warmish Irish Sea has given me the first snowfall of 2011. Just one day short of the 2010 big snow event aniversary here.
A Victory for Nature.
Martin not predicting the snow which fell is down to the Met O although i'm sure that they'd argue differently Ie "it was the intensity we got wrong not the chance of it"
Having icy roads and pavements is down to the local authorities who seem to prefer to send gritters out with flashing lights giving the preception of aplying salt rather than actually doing it.
The problem in areas such as yours where snow did fall and partly thaw yesterday and any where the same happens tonight is that roads and pavements are, for the third year running going to be treacherous on the busiest shopping weekend of the year.
As a nation do we learn....do we hell and the same will probably happen next year.
In fact next winter the local authorities won't even stockpile salt if they think that the world ends on 21st december 2012
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seems to me that the rain / snow is dissipating over the irish sea, then again thats to be expected considering how warm it is
mmmmmm could be another false dawn for the region then although would the Irish Sea not have the effect of pepping up the showers
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Is it just me but the showers don't seem to be making much headway out of NI.
Either that or the band is dying out as it crosses the sea but a couple of hours ago the position of the front edge seemed in about the same place.
under clear sky's the temperature is dropping here but at a painfully slow rate......currently -0.7'c.
Chances of snow for my location, low i'd say.....probably similar to today ie to far east and north again but if the band does reach the NW then i feel areas south of here and with altitude may do ok from it.
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I need snow more snow!
how can someone in Buxton, the snowiest town south of Scotland need more snow
think your getting a bit greedy there JP
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One of the advantages of getting next to no snow is that it doesn't turn to slush when it melts or at least thats what keeps my spirits up when everyone else seems to be getting plastered in the stuff. Never mind, aparantly we had 3 inches of snow last Friday. I wasn't here to see the traffic chaos it apparantly caused although the majority did lie on the drive all over weekend. Not feeling to downhearted as i'm sure our favourite source of snow, the beasterly will be along after New Year.
Notable differences in temperatures this afternoon 0'c at 3pm, + 2'c at 5pm, back down to + 0.3'c now with hopefully a frost overnight as no early doors car scraping needed in the morning.
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probably the top end of the north west cumbria carlisle will get the dolloping of snow i know i wont here :smilz38:
I've learned that when it comes to North West snow, expect nothing and you won't be disapointed and that's from someone who lives half way up a mountain.
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Im not sure i agree with that last statement, they always seem to white out areas where snow is an outside bet and not just the probable areas, remember the similar scenario exactly a year ago where the low got progged further and further south with each run, they overcooked the Northern extent of it as it ended up tracking into Southern England on Saturday 18th but i guess they undercooked the chaos and Eastward extent of those convective showers off the Irish sea on the friday night!
quite true but our snow as you said was convective showers of the Irish Sea rather than a weather system.
showers are more difficult to predict both in location and intesity and the December 17&18 event was a good example of that.
we had about 6 inches of snow by day break on Saturday yet at work only 7 miles away it was almost double.
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just a question for any of our more experienced posters.
The Met Office are confident of the outcome being one of Scenario's 1 and 2.
looking at the projected paths, they both take the same track into the SW approaches but then 2 turns North Easterly bringing the stronger winds further into Southern England. Considering the projected paths forecast earlier in the week, Is it not still possible that the storm could set a more northerly course whilst still in the Atlantic with even more widespread gales occuring.
Before anyone asks this is not an IMBY question as i've no wish for storm damage on my house but just an observation that the current track over the Atlantic seems as if it's running on tram lines.
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Meto bashing in here I see!
Temp down to 3.7c now with less cloud around at last.
I think that we're all guilty of it at some stage although with me it's more when a forecast hot summers day turns out be a cooler damp one.
Snow is always a difficult one to forecast in a specific area as, in our locality the last couple of days have shown but people constantly taking frustrations out on the Met Office is not fair.
TBH if i lived down south i'd be wishing that storm into Europe as high winds are my least favourite type of extreme weather and on our islands are the only real threat to life.
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hang on though they was saying the high winds will be back after the 3rd storm set to hit us on thursday night into friday morning and that no where in the uk will miss the high winds now they changing their minds now its snow hmmm seems to m they wanna make their bloody minds up
now now Mandi theres a place for Met Office knocking and it's not the North West Regional Thread...........it's called the Atlantic Storm Thread and it's full of folk who are reaching for the Prozac because the threat of Armagedon is now heading for Europe and even the forecast of falling snow is nowhere near set in stone.
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The problem is going to be getting the Low far enough North, PPN is going to be at a premium for our region as a whole, if we get PPN im convinced of a covering of snow enen at low levels.
Agreed that the majority of our region is probably too far north to be in with a shout of much more than a flurry or at best a slight covering although personally i'd sooner have that outcome than a promise of a white out which ends up as nothing more than icy rain. That said though, the earlier BBC weather forecast showed white as far north as Southern Cumbria and they are normally very reluctant to over cook the chances of snow.
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Its a developing situation - in such set ups we can't at such stage dismiss chances of snow overnight tomorrow - there is a very high risk I say...
The weekend finally promises some lovely clear skies and light winds with frost and a generally cold seasonal feel . I'll be in the NE so I won't be able to make the most of the winter wonderland that will be the Lake District this weekend. For those winter snow lovers who love the lakes - I say get up there this weekend it is going to be a cracker... if you like deep snow and clear visibility.
best piece of advice i've seen all evening and one which but for a Garden Shed missing half a roof and last ditch Christmas shopping i would be very tempted to take up.
that said though iffffffffffffffffffffff we get any snow in our neck of the woods it may be a good day for a South Pennine outing
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currently having a heavy hail/sleet shower along with some very gusty winds.
temperaure is at 3.7'c so can't see anything other than sleet tonight.