MR EXTREMES

no you are correct although half hour ago it felt very cold but not as cold as i expected. thaw has started here and no more snow looks likely but some will get a fair bit but the main rain band looks like just brushing the east.

thaw has started here in portsmouth although snowing again very slightly. though it was nice to see but if im honest if we dont get anymore i dont think it will stick in my memory as a classic. i know i expect to much from winters of now but id love to have a event happen where snow stays on the ground and is falling for atleast a few days maybe a week or more. but it just does not happen now. but overall its been different this year and nice to see but i cant see us here in portsmouth seeing much more in the near future but good luck to the rest looks like classic in your areas.

haha yeah me to i want this to be the best snowfall event in many years. im not sure about the main band it does seem to slide futher east than we would like but hey i dont think its over. with met office now going for northerly on friday with snow even in the south got to remember that where under a cold pool of air all week and there colder air to the north which where going to tap into wow

maybe because you watched the bbc graphics i see that aswell strange forecasting rain for later tonight and the main snow event the low coming up from france seems to skip most of southern england. im not sure i have a feeling we might miss this main prolonged spell but then again im not a expert :lol:

need my shades in a minute getting nice and white and bright out there. cant tell you how chuffed i am. my kids are going bananas my little girls looking out the window right now lampost watching, like father like daughter lol.

same streamer i think kold any news on tomorrow low pressure system is this going to effect us as bbc weather did not show any heavy snow from the pressure system effecting us? cheers wow wow wow brillant winter

or maybe not as a certain mr darren betts posted his monthly outlook yesterday on there bbc weather website read it and chuckle. because as this was posted so was the met office outlook and they where pretty different :lol: . i always thought that bbc weather used met offices data to produce there forecast so its either misunderstanding. or not enough input from the met office to produce a better forecast even then into the second week outlook darren betts forecast is a little ify :lol: but that is most likely lack of input with the not sure attitude. but he is one of my fav forecasters and is a true coldie i reckon next monday i expect it to say spring is on its way with 20c temps forecast haha :lol: :lol:

i go for 3.2 as this is the continuation of the global cet drop for now and some future years :lol: . change is apon us lol maybe :lol:

more polulation in the northern hemisphere and the global conveyor runs closer to the arctic in theory and if the tropical area of the conveyor is warmer due to more salinity. and if its correct the conveyor has increased in strength then melts will be much higher. i think the outlook for the arctic is very very grimm and i see no turning back from this. so slightly of topic could this be the start of some extreme warming in northen hemisphere more so for our neck of the woods i notice oslo has had fairly warm winters for years now just like us. but antarctic is different its somewhat out the way but i was reading its getting warmer here to. but theres is much more mass to melt and the conveyor seems to be a little futher from the antarctic. with also futher travel from tropical regions towards antarctic. :lol:

i think winter is all but over to be honest cets will start to head upwards looks ok for the north but not so good for the south. to be honest january was dissapointing but at the same time atleast it was different to the mostly mild winters in recent years. i be glad when its over its been stressfull and boring winter

i dont know if anyone follows solar activity or where to post about this topic? but what ive just seen is very strange indeed. A new sunspot is emerging inside the circle region--and it is a strange one. The low latitude of the spot suggests it is a member of old Solar Cycle 23, yet the magnetic polarity of the spot is ambiguous, identifying it with neither old Solar Cycle 23 nor new Solar Cycle 24. Stay tuned for updates as the sunspot grows. perhapes cycle 25 lol. perhapes massive change within the sun possibly even lower activity or meaning 25 could be the start of some pretty cold winters.

south today news has just forecast sleet and snow for monday with sleet sunday. been watching this develope and as each day has gone on the forecast have become more in line with a wintry spell. looking very promising

well i think unless the global switch switches then you can kiss the artic goodbye. its a good thing really because it allows the usa and britain russia canada ect to fight over the resources up there thats if theres any,sorry bit of anger there. and no offence but its melting it going to dissapear 100% cert so why worry because we cant fix it. even if we stopped everything that pumps gases into the air it would make no difference lets face it its to late to change our climate. and its the artic where we are seeing the damage its sad it depressing and id rather not had children because the world they are going to live in is going to be so much different.

climate change is real its what it has done for millions of years it been much warmer in the past than it is now and there where no factorys to warm us. ocean conveyor reduced by 30% or even %40 and its possible its slowing futher. sun spot activity has indeed been slow to pick up in its activity and even dr ha ha ha at nasa has updated his prediction within the last couple of days to even lower amount of activity. although this remains to be seen its not completely dead but if it carries on as it is, then it could be a slight problem well have to wait and see. i wonder if la nina and low activity from the sun could cause a knock on effect it may have been worse this winter if we where to take into account what met office say about el nino, and that it leads us to have colder winters mmm not so sure there last el nino we had it was pretty warm. but what is clear more research needs to be done for global cooling. and its also clear to me that things in the last couple of years have changed wether it be because of la nina or the sun its been colder overall april 2008, i see the first real snowfall in many years here on the southcoast. then before that although mild here in the uk, it was colder across europe and even places that have not seen snowfall in over 100 years eg bagdad. china worst winter in 100years aswell. even summer time in the usa places where breaking records for cold. clearly something is going on from recent years in this warmer period ive seen el nino and la nina and both have produced mild winters up until the last 2ish years. and although la nina is picking herself up again it was cold even in a neutral fase. and its been some years since ive seen partial sea freeze here on the southcoast. and everywhere pipes busting open packed with ice and frozen lakes with people skating on them what ever is going on a close eye needs to be kept on it. if next year the global temps rise again i will stay on the fence but at the moment wether it be la nina or activity or another reason id say it would seem earth is cooling of a little .

could this be the last snowy day before the milder air sweeps in after weekend. well been reading alot of media and not only are people on net weather thinking could remain cold for more than predicted but media input aswell even forecasters are having a hard time with it. but there could be more at the end of the weekend heres the link. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-ne...91466-22596492/

this is amazing snowed in southampton snowed in brighton nothing in portsmouth anyone on the isle of white because that would just be the icing on the cake for me what a crap event for us here in portsmouth. cant wait for wet and windy weather to arrive

nothing cold but not a flake here on the southcoast ohwell back to mild soon so i dont have to worry about seeing 1 single flake rubbish. but im glad the rest got something decent in the end took its time though.

its hard to see antarctic is being effected by global warming it seems like its not effected as much as its hyped up to be. right i know this is couple of months ago how about this for cold. but if im correct this is not the coldest ever but pretty near:. Northeast Siberia braces for extreme cold of -60C 15/12/2008 12:45 YAKUTSK, December 15 (RIA Novosti) - Temperatures in the northeast Siberian republic of Yakutia could fall to minus 60 degrees Celsius (minus 76 degrees Fahrenheit) in the next few days, the local meteorological service said Monday. With average low temperatures in Yakutia dropping below minus 40 degrees Celsius (minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit) overnight, weather in the town of Verkhoyansk dropped overnight to minus 53 degrees Celsius (minus 63.4 degrees Fahrenheit), while in Oymyakon it reached minus 57 degrees Celsius (minus 70.6 degrees Fahrenheit). “However, this is not the limit - in the next few days weather in the town of Krestyakh could drop below minus 58 degrees Celsius (minus 72.4 degrees Fahrenheit),” the meteorological service spokesman said. The spokesman added that the current spell of extremely cold weather was due to an influx of cold polar air masses. Yakutia has two places that contest the honor of being named the North Pole of cold, or the place where the lowest-ever temperature in the Northern hemisphere was recorded - Verkhoyansk with a record of minus 67.8 degrees Celsius (minus 90 degrees Fahrenheit) and Oymyakon with a minimum of minus 67.7 degrees Celsius (minus 89.9 degrees Fahrenheit). so it really put this winter into perspective on just how cold its been compard to most years.

yeah thats me im pretty easy led to be honest i knew cold was coming and i really didnt know to much about him although it states his a top forecaster lol im just going to carry on reading the thoughts of people on here i think i will get more honest answers aswell all in all it cold now which is good start i sopose lol :lol:

i think its one of the best post they done in regards to weather in years lol apart from siberian lol which is not the case yet but always possible given the wobbles in forecast. but the times have wound me up with there post perhapes the last jerk was sacked but all in all the post was better than the rest a little more realistic. but the info they got was from the met office which would be better for them if they stick with that source. :lol: but i cant see it lasting two weeks pehapes 7days.

yeah i noticed that yesterday typical i dunno anymore getting a little downbeat now where in a climate thats to unpredictable theases days perhapes winter will go out with a bang in the next 2weeks perhapes peroid of snow then back to mild west southwesterlies wet mild. atleast this year was diffrent early maybe next year

bbc 5 day pressure charts look bad and there 5 day forecast for aberdeen thursday 7c max 1c min with southerly and rain lmao that cant be right surely totally goes against met office mm i wonder who deals with there website lol

i noticed the met office is going for nw northely flow not good for us in the south always losers in the game of cold and mouse. BUT models seem like they pretty certain now sorry to be a noob but if this greenland high does hold true is this best type high pressure we could have cheers thursday looks great here in the south drizzle or light rain mind you it is the bbc 5day outlook lol.

There are many things that drive climate on our planet just like all over the solar system some planet have bigger or lesser magnectic fields than others some are hotter and colder than others but all have one thing in common there climate is driven mostly but not totally by the sun some other planets have diffrent material make up aswell ect ect which in turn would make them warm more or cool more. our planet is made up of lots of materials that contain gas that can be released into the atmosphere this can either cool or warm the planet like the others what is does have is lots of water the oceans along with the sun are what really make our climate. so high solar activity more heat collected into the oceans and land. on to snow and ice this defects the suns rays but this would make no diffrence if we have some pretty sustain prolonged warming then ice will melt like it has been happening. this has happened before time and time again but its also cooled over and over again. and in one point in earths history the whole planet was covered in ice. so ok then what would make this happen well we never had sunspot data or ocean data either but we have the tec now although this is still well in its early days. but there is growing evidence that salinty is building near the tropics this could have a major effect on the ocean conveyor perhapes cutting it off or slowing it down around the tropics area. but it also could be carring warmer salty waters towards the artic region this causing fast melts although no evidence on this and 2008 artic ice has made a recovery. but what is fact is in the last 50years the conveyor has decreased by 30/40% i strongly feel this could well decrease or stop futher perhapes not in my lifetime but in my childrens lifetime due to its desruption and i feel this may have stopped before but this is only 1 theory. the other is sunspot activity and particles in our atmosphere this and last year have shown a maked decrease in sunspot activity which is currently still very uncertain although nasa has stated march time will be pick up point in activity. although there has been slight activity and unrest between astromnomers some saying that it will continue very low indeed some saying normal some even saying high this remains to be seen as was stated in a earlier post there has been a few years of high activity and it would seem it ties in with somewhat warmer climate as the last couple of years have been different with low activity and cooler climate overall this would seem the sun has decided to have a rest but we will just have to wait and see how long this will last. as for particles there needs to be some more studies on this because this is known to refect a lot more sunlight back into space other possibles volcanic magnetic earths orbit ect ect. what is clear global temps have held steady or even fallen overall in the last couple of years some saying since 1998 im not so sure about that but i myself think the global switch has switched. i would like to say although a novice to all this i remember the winters of 80s and 90s i have noticed in winters things have been different things changed to fast in my view to call in the dreded human global warming but. i do agree with climate change and i dont not agree with us being the cause and i think human race is a tiny blip compard to the power of climate and our planet and our sun. i think the trend is going to get colder in years to come sorry about my sketchy detail and my very bad spelling lol as i said im a novice but be into weather and climate since i was in my teens. its just my thoughts cheers people

good post totally agree aswell and you are now week or so fingers crossed to a great forecast it all makes sence and climate drives weather and this is why forecasters more so for seasonal forecast take into account climate change. global warming no climate change is what id say is correct term. and things are changing sorry i will post what i think in a proper reply in awhile.