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Alex95 Contributor

Alex95

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  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms and heat, North Sea snow
  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posted (edited)

First real convective shower of the night is forming around Berwick - maybe a sprinkling in Newcastle around 12? I've seen it happen many times.

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Cheese Rice Community Regular

Cheese Rice

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  • Location: Manchester City center/ Leeds Bradfor Airport 200m
  • Location: Manchester City center/ Leeds Bradfor Airport 200m
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I see.

I'm lucky I'm slap bang in the middle ...

West and at Altitude. smile.png

You're saying the 'whole of NE/Yorkshire is in a rain shadow' ...

Do we in the NW not matter? blum.gif

Well no because the PPN is running from West to East.

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Snowstorm1 Apprentice

Snowstorm1

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  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Showers, Snowy Periods , Blizzards, Cold Weather
  • Location: Thornaby-on-Tees
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Its snowing here with temps at 2.1c/0.9c haha! ground soaking wet tho no chance of laying

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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South Easterly winds can be a stonker for the North, here is some PPN charts from the 18z GFS. Obvious caveats apply and an E/SE wind nowhere near nailed yet but as we get nearer i think it is worth thinking about thinking about things from a regional perspective, we dont want a Scandi high that s likely to sink after giving a few grains of graupel for the Extreme SE, we need the HP far enough North and with a strong pressure gradient.

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Alex95 Contributor

Alex95

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  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms and heat, North Sea snow
  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Newcastle usually needs a direct NE'ly to get 30cm+, a la Jan/Nov 2010, whereas SE'lies tend to be cold with an inch or two of powder snow. I wonder if we'll get a NE blast this year... smile.png

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Sara1988 Apprentice

Sara1988

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  • Location: Hoyland, south Yorkshire 160m/525ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: snow and thunderstorms
  • Location: Hoyland, south Yorkshire 160m/525ft asl
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well all we got at the moment is light rain, all we are going to get is heavier rain, so think im off to bed early tonight lazy.gif

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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Are we actually going to get anything tonight, whats the general consensus?, i have taken my eye off the ball for the short term worrying about the Easterly.

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SouthPennine88 Newbie

SouthPennine88

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  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything really
  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
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Well no because the PPN is running from West to East.

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I see, my bad

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Aaron Community Regular

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
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TBH NAE is all over the place with regards to precipitation.

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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Newcastle usually needs a direct NE'ly to get 30cm+, a la Jan/Nov 2010, whereas SE'lies tend to be cold with an inch or two of powder snow. I wonder if we'll get a NE blast this year... smile.png

All depends on the cold pooling and the orientation and exact lattitude of the high as well, for Newcastle there iss no reason why a wind anywhere between N and SE should'nt deliver, however, SE winds can of course just deliver really boring weather and agree NEerlys have a better track record.

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SouthPennine88 Newbie

SouthPennine88

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  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything really
  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
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Are we actually going to get anything tonight, whats the general consensus?, i have taken my eye off the ball for the short term worrying about the Easterly.

I don't think you should be worrying judging by today's rather wondrous 18z GFS blum.gif

Tonight though looks just overcast for us ... although certainly the possibility of light snow showers anytime from 3-7am ... this will be rather hit and miss though (as for the temperatures, unlike last Friday and last Sunday night, they should just about hold off to give us snow/sleet as apposed to rain.

Tomorrow itself looks a cracker regionwide, sunshine sunshine and sunshine ... tomorrow night looks mainly clear but precipitation arriving by Thursday mid morning

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Aaron Community Regular

Aaron

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
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All depends on the cold pooling and the orientation and exact lattitude of the high as well, for Newcastle there iss no reason why a wind anywhere between N and SE should'nt deliver, however, SE winds can of course just deliver really boring weather and agree NEerlys have a better track record.

For really big falls, just give me a stalling front.

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cfallon Contributor

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  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
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Are we actually going to get anything tonight, whats the general consensus?, i have taken my eye off the ball for the short term worrying about the Easterly.

I don't think so not for us anyway , hopefully it's just around the corner! Lots of positive comments in the forecast forum

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seabreeze86 Accomplished

seabreeze86

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  • Location: redcar,cleveland
  • Weather Preferences: Winter cold,snow and frost. Summer hot and thundery
  • Location: redcar,cleveland
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Temp dropping off nicely here down to 2.4 from 3.8 an hour ago. Dew point 0.7 850 temps dropping away also.

Need the sky to clear for abit before the next showers arrive so if they are snow they have a chance of laying

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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TBH NAE is all over the place with regards to precipitation.

I am not sure i rate the NAE at all, its very inconsistent IMO, not just with output but also performance wrt individual cold spells, it seems really accurate and just when i put faith in it, it seems to let me down on the next occasions.

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Barry12 Seasoned

Barry12

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  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Heat and Snow
  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire
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Maybe I should move East, north east getting snow and the south east getting snow.

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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I don't think so not for us anyway , hopefully it's just around the corner! Lots of positive comments in the forecast forum

Yep, it will be just like the models to go and flip back east again tommorow though, another 2-3 days solid modelling required yet before the corks can be popped but a very good day in all. hopefully in 10 or so days time we will be doing the honours for real, a 'proper' snow event allnighter.

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Tony Beets Contributor

Tony Beets

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  • Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire (170m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire (170m ASL)
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Got very light snow in huddersfield, ground wet tho so none sticking at moment!! Passing shower I guess but first snow falling this winter for me, YIPEEEE!

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SouthPennine88 Newbie

SouthPennine88

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  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything really
  • Location: Saddleworth, historically in West Yorkshire. 198m asl
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I don't think so not for us anyway , hopefully it's just around the corner! Lots of positive comments in the forecast forum

I still reckon will get something early doors. :p

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Liam J Experienced

Liam J

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
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Temp hovering around 0c with fluctuations either side due to the NE breeze, currently -0.1c. Very cold over the north tomorrow with temperatures staying close to freezing maybe 2c at best.

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Terminal Moraine

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District. 290 mts a.s.l.
  • Weather Preferences: Anything extreme
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District. 290 mts a.s.l.
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More sleet here with the temperature on 1.0c. The bulk of the showers now seem to have passed to the south.

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cfallon Contributor

cfallon

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  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
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I still reckon will get something early doors. :p

He who has faith! It would happen when I am in bed :-)

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Alex95 Contributor

Alex95

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  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms and heat, North Sea snow
  • Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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That wet snow earlier was my 4th snowfall this winter! The ground looks icy now, so any further snow should stick.

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cfallon Contributor

cfallon

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  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
  • Location: moorside, Oldham, Greater Manchester
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Yep, it will be just like the models to go and flip back east again tommorow though, another 2-3 days solid modelling required yet before the corks can be popped but a very good day in all. hopefully in 10 or so days time we will be doing the honours for real, a 'proper' snow event allnighter.

True, see what it shows in the next. 72hrs! Hopefully 2010 repeat in the terms of snow

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