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http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?x=306&y=141&run=18&ville=Londres&runpara=0&type=0&ext=1

these look different

the gfs model is not a cold outlier

winter is far from over

(i think)

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http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?mode=0&ech=6

hear we go again :lol:

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

low pressure to our south east

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

low pressure vanishes

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm

block holds stronger in these charts

gfs picking up on something

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1262.png :huh:

just a further note

i looked at the jet stream charts last night

which were not good however tonight the jet stream

charts show it weakening and in a much better position

i think they should put a government health warning

on the weather charts. it should say warning these charts

are addictive and can ruin your sanity :lol:

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&x=315&y=150

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

messy

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.1336032388664&lon=-0.09433962264150963

possibly better agreement

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.53846153846153&lon=-0.2830188679245289

agreement to 22nd but temperature only average no blow torch here

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax84s.gif

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

good luck to the pro forecasters

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm721.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rgem721.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rgem721.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rngp721.gif

jet stream charts still looking poor at present

lets see what tomorrow brings

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax72s.gif

updated fax chart puts high pressure closer

to the east of the uk

this should strenghten the block more

fax charts later may be interesting

back later

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http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.1336032388664&lon=-0.09433962264150963

i think fi starts 24th going by these

gfs run certainly looks too mild

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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

interesting outlook from met office for south east

http://www.null/two/ensembles/

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.1336032388664&lon=0.18867924528301927

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

from 96hr to 120hr look at the atlantic difference

for the weekend i think we will probably end up

seeing what the temperature is on saturday and

then checking the radar to see who gets what

i would say that we need to see the jet stream change

its course as on the gfs it does not look in a good

position for cold weather.I am not however saying that it

is right as i do not trust any chart at present.

try again tomorrow night :wacko:

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

updated ensembles

if you think our weather is hard to work out

scroll down to berlin and try to work that one out

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

i just watched the late bbc forecast and the

forecaster said potentially heavy snow for

scotland and the north east on saturday

being caused by low from the atlantic

bumping into cold air from the east

he said easterly winds would undercut the

atlantic low coming in but snow potential and location

would change over the next day or so

putting this into english he is saying they

are not sure yet exactly what happens at the weekend

the block to our east seems to be holding strong

but i would like to see it 200-300 miles further west

nice bom charts yamkin

i will try and make sense of the fax charts again tomorrow night

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

gfs is one of the warmer runs still

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.61943319838057&lon=0

gefs london look slightly cooler

will update later

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

last nights fax chart

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax84s.gif

todays updated fax chart

these are starting to show a weaker atlantic

more twists and turns to come again i feel

these links will change this afternoon

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

ensembles for what they are worth

are starting to show scatter again

21st-22nd has biggest scatter

lets see what tomorrow holds

i will be on tomorrow night with the fax updates

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Hey JP, yet another fantastic Fax Chart summary. You do know that we ALL now expect Fax Chart summaries from the expert 'John Pike' from now on

I firmly believe that the MetO Boff's using their human interface truly have in their sights a much colder period by the end of is week. They must see the Atlantic over cooking some of the model outputs

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hello yamkin

what do you make of the new fax charts

do you think i may be on the right lines here

john

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Yeah cmon jp we need a lift

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120.gif

updated fax chart for 120

sorry for the pic size

if the block continues to hold and we get

an easterly wind we could see some snow on

saturday or sunday with the low undercutting .

this is what i think the forecasters on bbc

are seeing at present but this could

still change by tomorrow

i still think the main charts could flip over

to cold again very soon

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http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=charts;type=fax;sess=

i wonder if the bbc think the block to our north east

will be stronger than the charts are showing

just saw the 10.30 forecast and they said

much colder weather for the weekend which could

be quite interesting

the fax charts seem to show the low

to our west stalling

i still think the charts could flip again within the next couple

of days

glad i do not have to make any forecasts as i admit

i still havent got a clue whats going to happen

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

gfs ensembles show a much colder outlook

ecm ensembles show much warmer ensembles

lets see what monday brings

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http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=charts;type=fax;sess=

tomorrow nights 120 fax chart could be interesting

if our block holds and moves further West it should show us

under a fairly strong north easterly flow

this is why i am waiting until tomorrow night to try

and work out the charts

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn18017.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn18010.png

fi but would be cold

snowbob remember the dates i told you

i still stick with them

will update fax later

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm

flick through these it looks like the atlantic

isnt getting through our block.

winters over ?

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

some colder runs showing here on the 12z

moscow looks freezing

still waiting until monday to try

and make any sense of the models

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

massive change from last night low heads towards us now

instead of going south giving westerly winds but cold

with 528 dam over us

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.37651821862349&lon=-0.18867924528301927

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rngp1201.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rgem1201.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif

all these charts are at 120 and trying to predict next week is

still a nightmare i cannot remember a time viewing charts

and trying to predict within a few days has been so hard

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

big scatter 18th and 23rd

who wants to bet these are totally different on saturday

then sunday etc

i will give the boards a break for the weekend as i

like my sanity

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http://www.null/two/ensembles/

if anyone can make sense of these their a better

person than me

i will comment later when i see the updated 120

fax chart

the gfs run looks out of kilter with all the other ensembles

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=51.29554655870445&lon=0.09433962264151319

the charts do look bad at present but they are only charts

so lets wait and see what later brings

glad i do not have to predict weather for a

living as i would not have a clue what to say about next week

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http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=0&map=1&archive=0

good night all

let the rollercoaster begin again tomorrow

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1201.png

gfs

to this

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif

fax chart at 96

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

fax chart at 120

for whatever reason it seems there is no update yet

on the 120 fax and i feel that will give a clearer picture

for what its worth i still think the gfs is overcooking the

atlantic and will not let the low go south

if gfs is right all respect to it as virtually all the other

main players are showing much colder solutions

i will update later if the fax updates

i will guess the gfs will show colder runs either 00 or 06 runs friday

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=charts;type=fax;sess=

click on 120

there goes the low south

much better

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the charts have gone mad tonight

lets hope gfs starts to come on board

i think if good charts are showing we should ramp

as this is only for fun and thats what makes the

forum what it is

long way out but wow

i will update later

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=1&map=0&archive=0

channel low

i reckon yamkin might comment a little tonight

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1201.gif

could anyone tell me why this chart only 5

days away would not be good for the south east