winterfreak

Quite GW. Proving it's entirely down to Man though is somewhat more difficult though wouldn't you agree? GW, not being confrontational at all, i just want to understand what goes on and why.... Jethro, point noted.

Thanks Jethro. Very informative. So why do Gray-wolf's posts seem to contradict what he says? Who's right?

But he reckons it's cooling up there......

Could I raise a couple of issues please GW? Why are you so quick to dismiss this chaps 40 year real time, first hand experiences of the Arctic when apparently nearly everyone else relies on 30 yr satellite observations. Perhaps your own first hand experiences of the Arctic region are better than his? Second re positive feedbacks leading to 'cooking' of the planet: I believe (although happy to be corrected) that co2 concentrations have been up to 8000 ppm in Earth's history with average temps some 6 deg c higher than present. Why, with these scenarios didn't we end up with multiple positive feedbacks that ended life on Earth ?:smiliz19:

I saw this and thought i'd post it for musing...... http://go2.wordpress...21542%2C00.html Arctic warming and cooling solar cyclical apparently :unsure: as observed by Russian chap.

Many thanks for the explanation there Ch, much appreciated and understood!

Many thanks for your reply. I had a read through the thread which does explain things. However, is a warmer stratosphere conducive to milder temps and a colder stratosphere to colder temps? This is the bit i can't get my head round..... as for sudden warmings and mid winter warmings....:lol: WF

Hi there, new member to the forum and a bit clueless. Could you please explain your comment above, in laymans, so an eejit like me can understand a little better what that means with regards to winter! I'm trying to learn a little at a time you see. Regards, WF.

Oh you can't leave it like that...... Elaborate why don't you?????

Pingo, did you have a ganders at this? http://forum.netweather.tv/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=rules&f=8

!! I understand your frustration, i feel the same, but some decorum please.......

Thanks CB, much appreciated. Look forward to getting to know you as well as the others!

Pingo, i'm new to this forum too but to join and then get into rows with people you don't actually 'know' is a bit off mate. Nowt wrong with passionate discussion but wouldn't it be better to get to 'know' people first instead alienating them to you? no point starting off as a ranter because as far as i can see, people won't bother with you if you do

Ha Ha!! I know the Himalayan link is slightly OT for Greenland but you know, it does make you wonder what's going on re warming/cooling etc.... A few more years and we should know for sure.

http://www.scidev.net/en/news/himalayan-glaciers-not-shrinking-rapidly-.html Saw this earlier which makes for thoughtful musing......

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/26/smoking-gun.html Update on possible new development with the code.....

Hi guy's, long time lurker....Very interesting this last week eh? As i'm not nearly as knowledgeable as most of you on here, i thought i would lighten the mood just a little..... Saw this on YOUtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk&feature=player_embedded Enjoy!!!