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Indeed, but when as factual evidence ever got in the way of catastrophic headline grabbing sound bites, which we see daily being portrayed over on the manmade thread. Until we see a far more factual and less emotive degree of reporting then the general public will always view climate change with a degree of scepticism, t'others can argue all they like but the general consensus will remain the same until there is a change in how the science and it's uncertainties are presented. Will it happen I'm the near future, I doubt it as there are far too many vested interest in the doomsday scenario presented not by the scientist themselves but by the lobby groups with ulterior motives.

Fair do's Dev. Just to add my rant wasn't aimed at yourself or a couple of other posters on here, just one or two.

Not at all, I just don't believe in all those fables I keep reading. As for my scientific reasoning may I suggest you read some of postings from previous threads. As for my comment on your links that you post, for amusement value I rate them highly but for factual evidence and scientific reasoning they are the standard fayre of the spoon fed it must be right coz a scientists says so brigade.

Lol, you mean like how you copy and paste link after link of the same old, same old. I've given plenty of scientific reasoning which I managed to do all by myself, but some here have difficulty doing this as they like to be spoon fed theirs.

Over on t'other thread Mr Misleader himself now implies global temps themselves aren't that important, well he would wouldn't he, just like when they wasn't that important when they was rising. This lot don't just want to move the goalpost, they want to reinvent the whole set of rules for the game.

Maybe you should pin this to your signature SS, that way anyone who accuses you of trolling can see that you obviously posts what the charts and long rangers are showing.

Or maybe we've way overestimated them, which is looking the form horse at this moment in time.

So what if todays predictions end up like yesteryears, do we simply airbrush them out and start again every time those predictions fail, or would a far more simplistic approach be better in saying scenario x may happen, instead of implying it's likely to happen.

Lol, even GW wouldn't go as far as that. Maybe it's the climate that makes the average British 17-25 year old male such a knuckledragger on a weekend night out, just a thought.

Perhaps that's one of them BOOM charts which keeps getting highlighted on the MOD thread.

If that floats your boat then yes.

One word sums up the next 7 days, repetitive. High pressure slowly sinking SW allowing mild and probably murky weather from Tuesday onwards.

It took me ruddy half an hour to work out who B.U.S were.

It's a case of find wally, he's here somewhere, can you see him, no not over there.

I agree with you with you for the first two thirds of December Fred but thereafter I see another mid Atlantic ridge taking hold, though this time I see it ridging into Greenland and then this being the catalyst for an extended cold spell lasting throughout the majority of January at least. Then I see February being a mild and wet month proceeding a March similar to last year.

GW, captain misleader himself is accusing us all of playing dumb on this thread, would that be the same dumb that cannot work out where the missing heat content is now, is it behind you GW, are you sure?

So the missing heat was first in the oceans then it absconded to the ice and now rumour has it it's waiting at Cape Canaveral in order to be launched into space.

Thats were I envisage any breakdown to come from Frosty, but it won't be a mild pattern rathe like you say cold zonality and with our own cold pool already in place it could surprise a few of us.

The lightest of dustings here.

I'm going against all the long range guesses and models and going for 2.9c A cold start followed by a mild blip before coming colder again in the final week or so.

I think any conference which means hundreds of inviduals attending in some far flung place is outdated in the modern world, the fact that this is from a group of people lecturing us on fossil fuels and the need for reducing our reliance on them makes for comical reading, regardless of ones stance on the science.

Indeed, or maybe they just can't see the big white elephant in the room as in the colder SST's around Antarctica.

Lol, don't worry four I'm pretty sure our friends from the IPCC will be working on that one and making further adjustments in order to make it look like we have warmed to those predicted rises, and if not the reasons will be as enlightening and entertaining as ever.

Lots or warming going on here. http://neo.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/view.php?datasetId=MOD_LSTAD_M