Wivenswold

Now we're under a Red Alert, the Met Office and therefore the Government are telling you not to go out. So I would tell your boss that you "don't feel safe" and if you're still told to come in everything is on your boss and your company.

Red Warning LONDON & SOUTH EAST UK weather warnings WWW.METOFFICE.GOV.UK Met Office UK weather warnings for rain, snow, wind, fog and ice. Choose your location to keep up to date with local weather warnings.

Haha, are you suggesting that 2,000 homes in rural Cornwall have not yet been added to the National Grid?

Having worked for unreasonable bosses and companies I hope this has prompted you to polish-up the CV and look elsewhere. I used to commute to London, 52 miles away by train. Back in 2010 I was stuck halfway due to blizzard conditions, I called my boss to say I was returning home as the train company was advising people not to travel. My boss said "You're halfway here now, come in". No thought about my safety or how I'll get home once I've finished my shift. Some people are promoted above their level of competency, avoid those people.

Barbados had a hurricane for one minute last year. That twitter post is just clickbait. "Powerful" "Bomb Cyclone" "explosively intensifying". Calm down mate, sustained winds are about 20mph lower than a Cat 1 Hurricane.

Weather Stations Analysis METEOCENTRE.COM 987mb at 19z

It's really helpful to see where people would put red alerts, it's how science works. We all compare homework and see whether others have picked up hitherto under-estimated or un-noticed features that could be important. I suspect something similar with longer words and more detailed charts is going on in Exeter right now.

Show us on a map where you'd have the red area and what you think the maximum gust will be in each of those red zones. Let's see how your assessment compares to the Met Office after the event.

Without wishing to go too far off topic..... I think most of the tall buildings in the UK are built to a pretty good standard, the problem is many of them aren't maintained very well. We're unlikely to see a building blow over but if wind gets to anything that was added post-build, like a pitched roof, cladding, penthouse apartment plonked on the roof, then we may be in for some spectacular footage. The most dangerous element of wind storms is the force with which heavy projectiles picked up by gusts and then become missiles that can kill us, like falling masonry or cladding.

My word, you've gone low there. Possibly.

Please can the gfuqhgfpjhing about The Met Office stop or go off to the correct thread? They are not idiots, there is no hidden agenda, they are doing their best in what is a challenging situation. Perhaps we should all say what we think the maximum gust will be at our nearest weather station will be and see how good we are at forecasting? Er, Shoeburyness 71mph.

Apps will be all over the place at the moment. I'd stick with human forecasters or reading the maps yourself at a time like this.

Am I detecting some big unknowns in the forecasts because of the Arome feature over the Midlands and East Anglia on the back-end of the storm. I've not seen the pink wind map beyond 14:00 in any of the Met Office forecasts. Sorry if it's a stupid question but is that Arome map showing a potential sting-jet over Central England towards dusk? Edit, here's AROME at 13:00 and 14:00 showing the feature and its effects for Cambridge.

Perhaps a separate thread for the usual debate over whether the Met Office warnings are appropriate? From now on a lot of people will be coming here for updates on a potentially life-threatening storm, not a assumptive theory-based debate on Met Office administrative and coms issues.

All eyes on the 11am update from the UK Met then.

That feature in the 18z one over the Midlands that looks like Kermit the Frog....what would cause that do you think? Is it modelling a sting-jet event?

Exactly, bin the apps. Read the posts analysing model output and ask questions if you're not sure. We're a friendly bunch.

POLITE REMINDER: Apps showing weather forecasts are merely reflecting one model run. Weather forecasting is far more complicated than apps and simplified maps can convey, unfortunately they lead to absolutist comments like "Met Office have downgraded us" or "forecast is all over the place for my location", "it said snow earlier now it's got rain [sad face emoji]". If you want to learn about the weather, learn how to read weather maps, compare the various models, runs and ensembles, then you too will never have to type in a postcode for the "latest" forecast.

Trees on railway lines at Luton, Nailsea (Bristol) and Keighley according to my tracking (ex-railwayman, I live for chaos). Edit: Add Birmingham Snow Hill to the trees list and Wolverhampton to the "station roof has blown off" list.

Dudley is causing a lot of power cuts here on the Essex Coast, a lot of more remote villages around here have already lost power and we've had a few long flickers. I understand train services through Luton are stopped due to a tree falling across the line taking out the overhead wires and landing in a fizzing pile of tree and copper wires, according to a local rail correspondent. More of that to come this week, take a snack and bottle of water if you're travelling.

I wouldn't fancy driving towards Eastbourne in a double decker. I hope you're on a route that stays fairly sheltered.

Totally agree on the constant London-based narrative (and I'm from London....sorry) but I think they're alluding to the effect this will have on coastal regions Netherlands and Denmark, where the storm will bring flooding potential and significant snowfall. Eunice on the other hand will have a wider UK impact, be it snow, torrential rain or gales (depending on which model wins out). Personally when I see Amber for anywhere north of the M62 I see that as being a more severe weather event than an amber event in London because of the weighing for potential impacts favours less resilient areas like the Capital.

Jeez mate, sorry to hear that. You take care of yourself and rest up.

Surely 10m minus height?

It's the expectation of the Pub run that's making everyone weird. Or maybe none of us are getting out enough.