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Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Ukmo 120hr fax chart to agree with the JMA tonight? - No chance! -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Now is it's perfect chance to shine then -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I never had a weapon but I do so hope you are correct -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Too soon? We've been waiting since the last third of December lol. -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
No, JMA is on everybody's ignore list, like the GEM. -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
As long as the ukmo remains rock solid, I will remain optimistic. Still time for the ecm to revert back later today. Bring on the 12z runs. -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Indeed. We have been here many times. Most of us want something extreme. I am 50/50 after the ecm op but still strangely optimistic lol. The debilt ext ens were much better than I expected -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The pub run has never been wrong at that timeframe -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
We need two things. Firstly, we need a damned good ecm 00z op in the morning. Secondly, we need to stop listening to what Darren Bett says. -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Just want to add this thought to the mix. It was mentioned on here a few years ago that although the ecm was regarded as the best model in general, this was based on it's medium to long term performance. Up to day 4 it was not the most reliable and we should look more towards the ukmo at this timeframe. Something to ponder after that ecm 12z op. -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Indeed. Don't normally trust the pub run but at 78hrs out - surely -
Model output discussion - cold proper on the way?
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
That's good news. Thanks for keeping us updated on those. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The ecm has the dreaded hump of doom over the north sea. This stops the cold uppers in their tracks to our east. This has happened so many times in the last 15 years. Why? -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
We have to hope here that the ecm has gone into one of it's attention seeking moods. This does happen lol. Let's face it, most of us will be glued (through gaps in fingers) to the 00z run in the morning. Your attention seeking has worked already ecm. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Very nervy 00z ecm in the morning. Doesn't really matter what the 12z ens say as the op more often than not leads the way. Just going on past experience. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I agree. West based you know what at the end just to add salt to the wounds. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
This happens 9 times out of 10 when we rely on an Arctic high. It is the biggest weather tease of all time. It looks to be doing all the right things until the 3 to 4 day timeframe - then it just giggles and slinks away. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I had a feeling the ecm would throw out a shocker tonight. Seen this scenario so many times before. The other models come into line but the one that was originally going hell for leather drops the baton at the last minute. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Will tomorrow morning bring consolidation of the easterly and dare I say maybe even upgrades, or GFS reverting back to it's earlier output and ECM watering down on it's present output? Brave person to call it. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
GFS 18z gets all kinky at 180hrs -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
GFS joins the ECM party -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The niggling feeling I have is that all our cold eggs are in one basket - the ecm basket. Tomorrow will be very revealing as the ukmo will come into view of the critical 5 to 6 day timeframe. We need this model on board before we half open the prosecco -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
A lesson I have learnt over the years is that if the ecm op is the only model showing a high degree of amplification to our north west, only trust this if it ticks down to the 4 day mark. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Reminds me of a couple of years ago, maybe 3 when the ec46 relentlessly promised winter wonderland that never materialised. This could be ecm's worst hour. -
Model output discussion - 7th January onwards
blizzard81 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
GFS definitely more amplified towards Greenland.