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Touched 27.3c here at 14.15hrs, still 25.7c at 16.30hrs, very pleasant indeed. I think given the exact same synoptics in Summer I'd have gotten pretty close to 31c.

Well they appear to be available on the end of a phone, or e-mail. Perhaps those who can find time to critisise can also find time to ring or mail them and ask for clarification.

I assume it might well be, but British Weather Services have been established since 1987, indeed I might well be right in saying they were either the first or one of the very first independent firms to set up in the UK. Whilst I agree the article is a little confusing, to be fair to Dale it wouldn't be the first time someone has been misquoted/misrepresented and it surely won't be the last. In my experience BWS are not ones to either sensationalise events or court the limelight and I assume the very fact they have existed for almost 25 yrs must mean they are both professional and very much doing something right.

Indeed, that was the offending thread, irrespective of the politics I'm not sure it showed this place in a particularly good light. Looking at the comments on PC's site I think he'd probably saw the thread at the time, so it must be said that if he did he took the brickbats contained therein very well - all the years of critisism and derision have probably left him with a pretty thick skin....

I think it's also very easy to get down on certain firms and individuals, PC being an excellent case in point... if ever the marmite anology applied anywhere... From a personal perspective I have little or no time at all for him or his methodology, that said however I'd never use the kind of language highlighted previously in this thread, indeed if he winds some folk up that much it's probably better for the blood pressure to ignore him completely.

We are drifting rather off topic here, but FYI someone drew PC's attention to it earlier this year on his site comments section. No individuals names were mentioned, but NW certainly was. http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=315&c=5

That is very fair and reasonable. However, I'm pretty sure there was once a whole thread on here dedicated to PC, which saw him called all sorts of things from con man to charlatan, the latter by a very senior member of the forum. Whilst you are quite right to take no responsibilty for individual comments, either from forum moderators or members, once threads get started with the sole objective of personal critisism mud will begin to stick - at least in my opinion.

It certainly looks like a case of sour grapes on Mr Anthonys behalf, who if you notice takes personal claim for the e-mail and in so doing distances himself from PWS - which is a rather cowardly way to go about things in my opinion. On the other hand, individual members have a perfect right to ctitisise other forecasting organisations through the medium of the NW forum, as long as the critisism is (at least to a degree) constructive and not abusive of course. However with all due respect Paul, I have seen posts from senior members of NW directed at Corbyn, which fail miserably to meet these objectives.

The man is a genius... http://twitpic.com/6ray3m

If Netweather the organisation have, as he puts it been 'dissing PWS' then he has a fair point. That certainly appears to be his contention, whether it is actually the case though I don't know.

For those not overly enthused by GP's post, just think back to what he predicted for the Summer just gone and things should look at least a little rosier... OK, before the inevitable tirade from his fans, the above is not a slight on GP or his LRF's, but a recognition of the utter folly involved in forecasting beyond 10-14 days. This year he got Summer equally as wrong as he got last Winter right, that I fear is the pattern most folk who produce LRF's will follow, especially ones like GP who really have the courage of their convictions and actively avoid fence sitting.

I accept it is a very difficult balancing act, but I think you have kinda missed the point too. In my opinion the official forecast data supplied by those charged to do so was perfectly acceptable. The MO are rarely one's to get over exited and I think their general Yellow with local Amber was pretty much spot on. What most people are on about when they refer to the overplaying, overhyping (call it what you will) was the general hysteria across much of the written media and even some of the broadcast media, which did an excellent job in making the less well informed feel this was a nationwide severe storm - as opposed to what was essentially a regional event. Again I accept this happens 9 times out of 10 when severe weather is forecast, it is unfortunately pretty much par for this particular course, but that does not stop it being very frustrating.

Totally disagree. This is a forum for the purpose of discussion and as such folk have just as much right to 'bang on' about how disappointing or overhyped this storm was as anything else.... as long as they are polite and respectful to other members that is.

An interesting evert overall for sure and without question severe in a number of places (most of which were well forecasted), but still nothing out of the ordinary to my mind. Did it live up to it's billing? No in my opinion, but that is simply a reflection of it's billing and not it's ultimate/actual affects.

Indeed MS, event of late May this year were far more significant and I'm pretty sure there were plenty of leaves on the trees at that time too. As you say, any previously named system, especially one that attained full hurricane status is likely to get more coverage, but to say this one has been significantly overhyped (at least to date) is perfectly fair imo.

The crazy levels to which this event got overhyped are now starting to become somewhat clearer. Windy yes for many, very windy for some and indeed stormy for a few, but compared to many Autumn/ Winter storms of the past it's been nothing out of the ordinary to date and I expect little to change across the next 12-24hrs.

Irrespective of you viewpoint there is no need to accuse anyone of ignorance, it's all about opinions, mine being as equally valid as your and visa versa. I stand by my assertion that in general this system and it's likely effects are being over exaggerated in the main, while in some quarters of the media massively over sensationalised doesn't even go part way to decribing it. Whatever your take on things however, the bottom line is 48hrs from now we'll be dealing with facts rather than supposition... so let's wait and see just how it all pans out shall we?

Agreed... getting overhyped to rather ridiculous levels now. I just can't see max gusts exceeding 70mph anywhere where sheep do not outnumber people by at least 1000 to 1, so quite a few folk on here would do well to calm down a little and take stock of the actual situation... lets not become a conduit of the Daily Express,

Which in effect is what it's likely to be, at least for some.

Agree this has been the case all Summer, but I still expect Sept to turn out dry, warm and sunny overall... .we just need to get over this shorter term blip.

Despite a rather significant model wobble, things are now starting to get back on track. My thoughts last week were that we would have a good first half of September and nothing has changed, indeed I think the month overall will be fine, dry and warm for the vast majority of us.

That looks the most likely evolution to me at this stage. I'm not buying into an immanent Atlantic return, in fact I think it could well be mid month before that happens, at least to any great degree. Edit: 06GFS very much fits with my thought pattern post this weekend.

Nothing within the overnight outputs to suggest HP will not become the dominate feature by early next week. It's initial positioning to the west will mean temps will be near or even a little below average at first, but I think it will become warmer as the week unfolds and it should certainly feel very pleasant, even summery, in the sunshine and light winds. Despite the fact Summer 2011 has been poor overall here, it's going to feel a long one if we get a good Sept, having had some cracking conditions 5-6 months ago.

GFS maintains the theme of a marked rise of pressure as we move into early Sept, so confidence slowly but surely increasing on some long awaited dry, sunny and eventually warm weather.

Whilst days are shorter and the sun lower/weaker, we can still have plenty of 'summery' weather in Sept (esp 1st half) and the way the models are now shaping up I think this will again be the case this year. Those who like dry, warm and sunny weather can look forward with far more optimism than for some considerable time in my opinion.