leicsnow

Between 1-2 inches out there for me now

I think there's an inch of settled snow outside my house around now...

Ooh the 06z GFS keeps a rather sustained cold outlook, with northerlies (noreasterly) producing snow more widespread and including western areas in FI. It is the 06z though, again the run with the lowest verification stats, but if 12z follows it will certainly be looking good.

Well according to the Netweather 10 dayer the chances are I won't see snow tomorrow, at 45% snow risk. Lol doubt it.

Well it sounds like my village (about 10 miles west of Leicester), may well be right on the battleground, especially since Roger said he expects "a wall of resistance" from Leicester to Cambridge. Am I right in thinking this could bring some heavy falls and deep accumulations for me?

With pleasure! (I guessed 4.5 when it wasn't looking good)

Well there was February/March 2004 and 2005, and also March 2006 which was a very good March for cold and snowy weather.

Well I am within the warning areas of all the Meto's current warnings!

In Leicestershire, the furthest away in the Midlands from both the east and west coasts, I really don't know where I stand :huh: I think with temperatures for me going up to 2c after the snow on sunday and 3 or 4c on monday I probably wont get any long lasting snow cover.

I wouldn't have minded February 1998 seeing the start of spring but only if December and January were decent for snow and cold... which they weren't.

Am I in the firing line too?

Where do you think I stand in Leicestershire (I live on the west side of Leicester city btw) snow wise?

February 1998 had a dry sunny and warm spell. Do you know why that happened and what caused it? I'm interested to know.

Yeah not to mention how people always stereotype 'cold' with 'wet' and 'warm' with 'sunny'. In Summer this is true but in Winter it's the other way around!

Yeah I was just thinking that after I posted

Am I right in thinking we are approaching a time when further stratospheric warmings won't affect the rest of our winter? I vaguely remember chino or someone saying it took about three weeks to take an affect on our weather (if it affects it at all).

It's true that many think of November as a winter month, when in reality it's usually rather mild (as well as the start of December often too). However, as you say it's quite dark as well and it's amazing how people will perceive it as colder when it's wet and dull (although this can be attributed to accompanied wind). Perhaps more surprising many people I know will say February is a Spring month, and describe it as "the end of winter going into Spring!" "The end of February is definitely Spring!".

Yes it sounds promising for a nice CET figure for February. It'd also be the 1st in 5 winter months to have a sub 3 CET. It could 'make' this winter.

The reason I take things literally is probably attributed to the fact that I have Asperger's Syndrome (look it up if you're interested). I agree with you when you say you don't need extreme cold for a battleground snowfall - in fact it preferably needs to be warmer for obvious reasons! I also agree with you about the wintry element of Spring and whatnot, in fact I strongly agree! But really, for me in the Midlands, any lying snow or really anything more than a few wintry showers is rather unusual before Christmas, and particularly so before mid-month (as I said it's probably a different story for you in Scotland). I suppose that makes December 2010 all the more exceptional! IMO and for my area the first half of March has more potential (probably not exceptionally so though) than early December. So with that mind I consider Winter as mid-December to mid-March. Although as I said, it's just my opinion!!!! The reason I started this topic was because I have seen posts in this forum which say things like "I often consider X part of X month to be X season", so I became curious!

It is probably the other way around for me further south, as in December during zonal periods the north can enjoy topplers while it's pretty average south of Cumbria. In March, however, we could benefit from a much more potent easterly. I am quite surprised at your view considering March is what delivered your maximum snow depth

Anyway, I wasn't supposing for the 'official' designations to be changed. Just personal 'opinion' thats all. I think it's more like half months to be honest, I accept that these statistics are valid and I was wrong but I'm sure it would be very different if you compared the first half of December to the first half of March. The two halves of December can indeed be very different, as a settling into winter state often happens in the second half. Meanwhile, in March, the first half can be quite chilly but during the last third the temperature usually tops 15-17c on a sunny day. Dare I say it's similar with June and September?

Alright, could a mod lock this topic now to avoid any arguments? I probably shouldn't have started this topic.

I think the more prominent example is the fact that September often beats June for warm weather (particulary in recent years), more so than March surpasses December for cold and whatever. Do you agree there?

I think the better example is the September/June one, rather than March/December. As has -21C. Very wintry to me!

Yes but it actually happens fairly frequently... IMO the first half of December should be replaced by the first half of March as winter.