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  1. 1 hour ago, Ben Sainsbury said:

    Does anyone hate the phrase used by the BBC "thundery showers" when we're seeing such extraodinary ingredients forecast?

    If you hadn't have posted this, I was going to after watching 'Weather for the Week Ahead'. Absolutely hate it when they label them "thundery showers" - something you get in winter during a heavy sleet shower with the odd rumble of thunder, not potentially severe thunderstorms...

  2. 4 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

    All my blitzortung apps fon't seem to be working!!

    The Blitzortung server has temporarily crashed, apparently. Probably due to being so surprised that there is a thunderstorm over Merseyside.

    4 minutes ago, William Grimsley said:

    Slightly confused as this doesn't look that interesting. LOL.

    Looks good enough to me. You only need a little bit of CAPE to support storms, even strong ones. There have been countless events, here, when we've had heavy thunderstorms, with frequent lightning, only held up by around 100J/kg CAPE.

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  3. 11 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

    Just hit  25°C here now

    How does the sky look over there? Slightly hazy with bits of high level cloud appearing and disappearing sums it up here.

    Central Wales looking like the current hotspot with satellite imagery showing some decent clouds there.

  4. Forecast for today (Sunday)

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    Some models are showing no precipitation for today, others are. Personally, I think something will trigger at some point during the afternoon, and when it does it could potentially be stronger than last night's storms due to higher energy, temperatures, lapse rates and a greater swathe of richer Theta-W air mass covering a larger portion of the country. Unlike today, convection initiation locations won't be as easy to pick out, and instead any convection that does manage to form is likely to be more scattered in nature with just about anywhere in the risk zones able to see something. Like today, however, the North West of England and Northern Wales seem to be best placed when it comes to parameters pulling together to favour storms.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

    Getting closer. 46 miles from that last Blitzortung strike. Interestingly it only seems to be picking up about  10% of all strikes that I can hear on the radio. Must be  predominately producing ICs. 

    Glad to hear it. The way some people are describing these storms doesn't compare to how they look on the lightning detectors. Hoping they can hold together to give something tonight, even distant so that I can get some photos!

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Harry said:

    Limited use of the T word I notice...

    Essentially because that warning is only really covering the more organised rain expected through Wales during tomorrow. Later in the afternoon and into the night period is when the real storms are meant to begin firing, I would imagine these warranting at least a yellow warning, if not amber.

  7. 1 minute ago, Speedway Slider said:

    Can someone clarify lightning within 50km of a point please? 

    For example, the first chart above has a "technical term" yellow splodge, so if I took a pin and stuck it in anywhere within that yellow splodge, then drew a 50km circle from the centre pin point, including any area within that circle, even if it part of the circle is outside the yellow splodge, there could be lightning?

    Sorry if that's a rather complicated description, couldn't think how to shorten it!!!!

    That's the literal meaning of it on my attempt at a forecast. Whether or not the same applies for other forecasts, I'm not sure :) 

  8. 1 minute ago, William Grimsley said:

    I wish everyone would stop discounting the south west, this happened in 2014 and we got some of the best thunderstorms that Summer... Obviously, you didn't read my status, Tom. I knew it was sarcastic.

    Nobody is discounting anything just yet, William!

    Even this close to the start of the event, its too close to say where will and where won't get storms. A plume cannot be predicted, and even nowcasting is no good. At this stage, people are simply relying on what the charts are showing. When forecasts begin to emerge, we can get a clearer idea, but don't worry, no one is discounting anywhere at this stage :) 

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  9. 7 minutes ago, William Grimsley said:

    Home-grown MCS! LOL! That's quite unlikely to happen to say how dry the air will be further north and east. I think you may be in the "no go zone", too far east for anything elevated and too far west for anything surface based, that's just my opinion. ;)

    Dewpoints only a few degrees behind the air temperatures both at the surface and also the 850hPa mark as well as humidities around the 80% mark upwards seem rich enough for some decent storms!

    Precipitable water charts showing some 30+mm over parts during Saturday too, so plenty to fall from the sky.

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