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1 hour ago, Sunny76 said:
Yes it has been a poor summer for the London region, but still it’s been dry.
Only half way through it mate...July hasn't been poor (and even the back end of June), dry with temps a tad above average though not all wall to wall sunshine.
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5 minutes ago, Alderc said:
Well for the third day on the trot this amazing high pressure about to deliver another clagfest with invading cloud from the east. Last weeks 26c and 17c dew points was much nicer.
You've got to be joking?...it was horrible and muggy and felt even warmer than the 25-27c we had over 3 days.
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Another strange NW headline... 'But an unsettled change ahead' ? can't see that down south personally. Sunny spells today with temps a refreshing 19.5c.
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1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:
Next week
Fine start
Turning wetter from mid week
Temperatures near averageThat's what they said for this week...by and large not the case for many in the south/east, and warmer than forecast.
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36 minutes ago, Wildswimmer Pete said:
Another autumnal day. Overnight min: 14C, I think we managed a schorchio 18C. Morning cloudy with heavy showers but now dry with sunny intervals. Needless to say we are still enduring that now semi-permanent cold NW wind.
Looking at the forecast for the next week or so, I've written off this "summer".
Well you want to swim down here mate, the continuation of muggy warm air continues, today 25c in a supposedly fresher northerly breeze!! - pull the other one, the last 3 days maxes are all above what was forecast on Monday but they did say some showers or thunderstorms for Wed through to today so that was wrong as well...won't surprise anybody this was from the BBC website, about as accurate as Stevie Wonder at the world darts.
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27c yesterday here on the Essex Riviera something that was NOT forecast earlier in the week, as for NW headline of 'the weather settling down' - huh!?! okay might apply to parts of Scotland and the north east but here so far this month waiting for the weather to turn unsettled, hardly any rain just a trace.
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Incredibly from this synoptic situation (which doesn't look that great on the face of it) we've managed 27c today!...astonishing, nobody was predicting this at the beginning of the week, but sadly horribly muggy.
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Another warm and muggy day out there...25.6c max yesterday, currently 24.7c and fairly sunny.
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Real muggy morning here on the Essex Riviera with the sun poking through at times...22.8c currently - outlook looks more of the same and staying mainly dry with somewhat of a weak Atlantic influence.
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1 hour ago, Weather-history said:
Hmm..don't agree. Manchester winter index made it is the highest rating winter since 1995-96. It may not have been the snowiest but at least it felt like winter and it wasn't restricted to just one month.
If you are calling that winter a feeble effort, you are going have to delve deeply into the thesaurus to find an adjective describe the winters' previous,
More or less what I typed further up on this page...considering the efforts of numerous winters before that, nice frosty winter what I recall.
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25 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:
I would have though there was a lot of snow about for you, hardly any where i was, don't like those dry cold winters anyway, they are the ones that synoptically usually tantalise you and then fail to deliver.
Nope not that much...mostly east midlands and some parts of East Anglia had the majority if memory serves me right, I remember TEITS posting that he was on in the sweet spot (Peterborough).
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1 hour ago, feb1991blizzard said:
Good post, although 2008/09 wasn't actually that good, without that stonking snow event that just seemed to get lucky in rush hour, that winter would (and in Salford actually did) go down as a feeble effort.
Making me chuckle...talking about the upcoming winter in July! 2008/09 wasn't a bad winter what I recall, plenty of dry conditions, fairly cool and frequent frosts with a bit of snow about early February.
Back to the here and now...feels quite clammy out there already with no wind though the temperature is only 19c - weird.
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Warmest day of the summer so far here (wasn't really expecting it) on the Essex Riviera...27.3c max, lots of sunshine and a gentle breeze.
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Certainly warmer today here on the Essex Riviera, 24.9c currently and the sun has reappeared with a light breeze but feeling more humid.
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Max of 20.9c on the Essex Riviera and not much breeze so it feels warmer than that...outlook currently looks quite good so the 'back to back' poor summer months could again as mentioned a few days back be put on hold (last time 2012 I believe), but it's early days.
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1 hour ago, Weather-history said:
For a summer month to be described as one of the worst, it has to be cooler, duller and wetter than average trending towards the extreme
Not for some on here...okay maybe in different regions there might have been more continuous rainfall, cloud and cold temperatures so opinions will vary, personally i'd say 2012 was worse particularly the second half. June 2019 started warm/very warm for the first 2 days and the last 5 or so days was fairly sunny with temps increasing and only 1 working week I'd say was 'extreme' in terms of cold temperatures and rainfall but hey! even December 2010 had it's milder days with some sun...
So overall I'd agree with you.
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Coupled with the partly sunny/fine days Londoners would bite your hands off for that particularly after June...bit better than average I'd say for that 14 days factoring in the settled conditions.
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2 minutes ago, B87 said:
23.6c for the 14 day period
Give over 23.6c max average for the first 14 days of July, so what would it be for early August the hottest part of the year?
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15 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:
Yes its the summer moans thread, not the.... Let's get personal with folks thread!! Don has a good point, temperatures are all over the place, records falling in winter for unseasonable warmth... Correct me if I'm wrong but 2018 was an historical summer, the first 3 weeks of June have been poor, but all I'm hearing is how bad this summer is... To my knowledge there are 8 weeks to go yet. And also temps of 23-26c are very decent for any part of the U.k. Especially as during sunnier moments we could ad several degrees to those figures.
Ah some welcome relief...
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4 hours ago, johnholmes said:
Not completed all my stats just yet but the 2nd wettest June with 106.9 mm only 2007 with 136 being wetter
Temperature wise 0.5 C below my average from 1997-2019 (inc), and only the 6 th coldest mean value so well away from the coldest. This was 1997 and 2001 both with 14.4 C mean temperatures
Interesting John, what was your take on the month as a whole across England? comparable to 2007/2012. It really seems however poor a spring/summer month of recent times we just don't seem to get a 'cold' month.
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Yes the last decent hot August was 2003 but since had a few warm one's but rather unsettled so maybe this is the one...June wasn't a total washout, it started sunny and warm/very warm and ended that way it was just what was in between
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Your looking for further poor weather so you can further blow your frustrations - let's be honest, 2 poor weeks in June which it largely amounted to and the majority of the rest was pretty average but that alone doesn't make a poor summer (Including May), I'll leave it at that, have a good evening.
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Why are you looking into FI for the next 'possible' poor spell of weather which could be it for your summer when we have a majority of this week which looks set fair and largely sunny, even then we would not be half way through summer?
By the way not twisting anybodies agenda to suit mine and I never said your opinion is wrong by I do feel there have been some exaggeration but hey!
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1 hour ago, MP-R said:
... which is why he said it 'feels' like summer. Like everyone on here I'm sure he's well aware May is a spring month. I can see where he's coming from though, more so in light of recent times, where May is more often than not better than August, the days are longer, the sun is stronger, the light brighter etc etc. The second half of May is more frequently more summery down here than the second half of August, let alone into September when summer has long gone.
This debate comes up many times on what constitutes 'summer'. Are we thinking temperature, SSTs, light levels, plant growth. 21/6-21/9 or 01/06-31/08 or 07/05-07/08...
So he's setting himself for a fall then...temperature wise May isn't warmer than August that's for sure but maybe recent May's have swayed towards settled sunny warm ones and that on the basis of rising temperatures not just in this part of the world. You could equally argue that September is an extension of summer (certainly in the south) but it depends as you say what categorises 'summer' - warmth, sunshine totals, lack of rainfall or all the fore-mentioned, but saying that May this year really wasn't that bad and just proves you can't rest on your laurels expecting settled, sunny conditions. We aren't the Mediterranean.
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Summer 2019 - Moans, Ramps, Chat etc
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2018 spring/summer was rubbish for convective storms as it was dominated so much by high pressure...so you can take that off the list as well!