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A trough dominated outlook!?!...might be the odd occasional passing weak front to the east but for the next week looks dry and sunny with temps largely near normal, not bad summer fayre. Certainly dry if you live in the south so nothing to moan about (for the majority).
Who knows beyond next week but certainly no Atlantic stuff to be seen of any consequence...
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Lovely day out there, not to hot or too cool - just right with a slight breeze. 23.5c currently.
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1 hour ago, Aleman said:
Apologies for the subject matter but I think it is useful to know.
Hot versus cold deaths is often an ill-informed debate. UK baseline deaths is usually around 9,000 per week in summer. It increases steadily into winter as it gets colder so there is an argument warm weather is good as it reduces deaths. Winter cold snaps of several frosty days or more show up every time as a spike of maybe 2,000 to 5,000 deaths per week, usually mostly through indirect issues like flu and the effects of cold on other illnesses. Media hype up deaths from heat but, in reality, the numbers from heat are small and seem to be offset by people reducing deaths elsewhere - perhaps relaxing instead of doing heavy work. It's possible overall death rates actually reduce sometimes when it's hot. When we have heatwaves, there is usually no observable change in death rates from the 9,000 baseline. Observe the graphs below. See the cold weather spikes in previous years, and see how this year's warm February saved a few thousand lives. Cold winter weather kills many more than hot summer weather - at least in the UK it does. It's worth remembering when the media are hyping how bad the heat is for health that we'd probably actually be better off if our climate warmed a bit, even if it meant more heatwaves. It's cold snaps that kill many more.
Apologies again for the subject matter again but I think it puts more context into the debate on how bad for health some hot weather is.
Currently dipped to 23.5C here after touching 26.1C. Given our suntrap garden averages 22C+ in summer, we have not reached the heatwave threshold of 5C over average yet even for one day. It is quite a hot day, though, and I will be going to the pub shortly to enjoy it without feeling guilty for wishing for a taste of the weather others were getting!
Interesting but it hardly goes back a long period of time that chart, agree in general warm weather is more conductive to better health than cold but in my lifetime I've known flu outbreaks in almost as many mild winters as cold. strangely you would have thought the 2017/18 spike would have shot up later in the winter but doesn't really considering that's about the coldest week we had at least in the last 20 years or so...26.8c currently
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Well it was a breeze coming from the North Sea and when the cloud rolled over late afternoon it was chilly but I still had my short sleeve Polo on though...both Wednesday and Thursday were like that, 24.9c now.
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Only 24.5c here on the Essex Riviera, certainly can't see getting near the 30c barrier here...
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1 hour ago, feb1991blizzard said:
Yes, Matty you are missing the point, in winter i would love a Jan 87 or feb 91 (near to or more than a foot of snow and brutal cold) but given its happened twice in my life, its unlikely, what i moan at is when we get winter after winter where the max snow depth is between 1 and 4 inches of slush, all i want is 1 6 inch fall and a few 2's and 3's every year, which is what we used to get when i was a kid, people who want warmth have no cause to moan, temperatures are going up not down.
Exactly you trying telling e few on here who have been posting regularly about the 'abysmal' June as if that is it for summer...temperatures are only going one way and the likely hood of 2018 style summers will become more common (sounding like a spokesman from the MetO).
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23 minutes ago, MattStoke said:
Well 24’C is the summer average in London, so 27’C isn’t a huge stretch with high pressure in charge.
Not with those uppers and looks like a slight breeze possibly from the east or north east...I'd be surprised!
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12 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:
Aye. looks cloudless skies for day 3 of Wimbledon, certainly hot on court over 40C in the sun, real temp around 27 as a guess
I think you're going a bit high there...temps will fall by Monday but recover slightly so doubt it will be above 25c anywhere...
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1 hour ago, Azazel said:
Feels a little juicy outside, sun feels very strong. First morning it’s actually felt like summer. I will enjoy today and tomorrow as that looks like it for the foreseeable future.
Just to remind you we don't live in the Mediterranean...and to feel like summer it doesn't have to be 25c+ temperatures
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1 hour ago, Azazel said:
Talk of the Greeny high returning into July in the model thread. Yay can't wait.
and then the next round of moaning can continue...let's get the next few days of very warm weather out the way and let's see what mother nature brings.
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Beautiful sunny day not a cloud in the sky bit of a breeze though...temps creeping up, 19c but still a bit depressed.
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Certainly a totally different feel here that last night...cool cloudy and breezy tonight and muggy and calm last night.
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Just a reminder to a few on here we're not even a third way through summer...if we had the same circumstance in regards to a coldies perspective towards winter there would be more than one reply about it only being Xmas! - it's been a long time since we had poor back to back summer months, who knows what awaits but I'd be very surprised to see an unsettled July on top of this month.
Get out and enjoy today - the sun is out and pleasantly warm. (here in the south east)
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45 minutes ago, cheeky_monkey said:
2015 was warm and dry up until the 24th when it turned wet and cool in the last week...was still warmer than all but August 83,84 and 89 from the 1980s
A few over exaggerations on here in terms of bad summer months in recent times...
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2 minutes ago, Sunny76 said:
I love to doom it up!
You do don't you! 2016 worse than most 80's summers...really? 1983 was just July certainly for heat and 1984 wasn't a bad one, so we agree on something. I remember the 80's particularly well as 90% of my teen years were out playing golf. 1989 wasn't a bad one either.
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2011 wasn't poor - more 'mixed', I remember it well as I was laid off work that summer, each month started very warm or hot from June right through to October for a varying amount of days.
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1 minute ago, cheeky_monkey said:
i was living in West London during the summers of 2014, 15 and 16.. in those three summers only August 2014 and June 2016 were what i would term as relatively poor summer months..ie they were on the cool side and wetter than normal..other than that those summers were far better than virtually all of those in the 1980s
agree we do have some unsettled summer months (maybe not on the scale of this June of recent times) but very rare now days you get them 'back to back'...and yes my childhood summers other than 75/76 and most of the 80's were poor...stainesbloke would have never returned
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1 hour ago, stainesbloke said:
Yeah, but you forgot the utterly crap series of summers before that. A warm September is nice but all a little too late. When the weather in the UK is pretty depressing for the majority of the year, it’s important to get a decent amount of sunshine and warmth in the short summer that you get. Doesn’t need to be a heatwave or arid spell, of course but something pleasant for most to enjoy outdoor activities.
Crap summers before that?...okay other than 2012 and 2007, they weren't that bad (maybe compared to Prague), and a warm September is a 'little too late' for what?...for a sun tan. Lets be honest current trends particularly for the south and south east is for increased warmth and sunshine most noticeably in the spring and autumn months, not as bad as you're making out.
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Personally think it's 'refreshing' to see a poor summer month, we've had far more reasonable/decent summer months over the last 5/6 years than what we've had bad...and in these times of global warming, though this month's CET will still come out near normal or if not a jiffy above.
I know what I'm saying doesn't suit the sun lovers but who knows we might get a really good September to make up for it (2016) or a continuation of largely sunny warm October's...
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1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:
It was warmer back in February!
I'll give you £50 of my hypothetical money if those temperatures are on the ball in the south/south east, if the sun is out then there is no way they will be near!
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1 hour ago, Azazel said:
I genuinely think I've had 3-4 days where the sun has made an appearance this month. That is shockingly awful for June. When the sun came out on Saturday and it touched 22 degrees, it felt absolutely roasting because i'm just not used to it. It's going to be an awfully long/depressing Autumn/Winter this year.
You really are full of the joys of summer aren't you?...but I'm sure you'd call it Autumn
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1 hour ago, Blessed Weather said:
Dan Holley, Weatherquest, tweeting about why we had a 'fail' last night. His tweet contains a nice animation and you can clearly see the lightning activity veering off to the right and heading off into the North Sea:
"Ah the joys of thunderstorm forecasting - specifically 'elevated thunderstorms'. Plume events rarely go to plan, and last night was another one to add to the list. Storms did develop over France as expected, but turned to the right too quickly. Kent / East Sussex had a show."
'Veering off into the North Sea' - again!, did that last week, but fortunately I could see lightning to my east on that occasion but last night seemed a 'universal' bust...
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25 minutes ago, Dami said:
According to radar, my cloud has grown and i'm in some rain. Went out to collect washing still hung up and it wasn't damp anywhere but that lovely rainy smell. One of the best smells in the world.
Well my late father would certainly agree with you (who passed away just before Xmas)...he put this down in his eulogy 'that warm rain on a summer's lawn just brought out the fragrances of everything surrounding'...
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Looks like another day of cloud humidity and possibly some rain, not sure about storms - what heavy stuff on the radar is on the continent again!
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Sorry I know this irks you for me to keep quoting you...but again and I know this is your opinion but May might feel like summer but it really is not - maybe it's because the flowers are out in full bloom and the Chelsea flower show appears and the cricket season is in full progress? but May has never been a summer month, there are a few that would argue that even the beginning of June isn't really summer (21st June to 21st September could be the argument for the solstices).
You're now saying that this May to July period is the worst in your lifetime, okay June maybe but May was largely fairly bland, sunshine totals and temperatures near normal, rainfall drier than normal and the first day of this month looks pleasant and not sure why you're including July. As I mentioned you keep posting your opinions that aren't really backed up by facts.