John Badrick

Thanks for the heads up ET, will check in the morning...Have you got a link to the web cam you mentioned? Thanks again JB

Anyone in here from Princetown/Devon? If it's going to snow in Cornwall/ Devon this ,I've been told is the place to be.. Was thinking of taking a drive up there tomorrow/Sunday with the sledge and kids was wondering if it would be worth the hour drive, anyone with any info much appreciated

That's better, looking at the here and now and the good cold spell we are in rather worrying what's coming next.

However, they did say that it would more likely to prove there would be cold later in the season..my question would be if Feb and March turn out to be cold and snowy would that prove the negative OPI a good tool in predicting 2 out of 3/4 winter months being cold?I say 3/4 because I think March can be classed as a winter month

Hi Legritter, just seen your location, I went to Sidcot school did my ALevels 96-97 remember using trays from the canteen to sledge down the fields after heavy snow can't remember when exactly think it was winter 96. Remember there was always tension between people from the vill (winscombe) who used to fire fireworks at the school on bonfire night hahaha...those were the days!!

You don't see this very often, a weather warning for snow in Scotland and cornwall with almost the rest of the uk clear! Is this a wish bone effect someone was talking about earlier. Can someone explain this???

Will definitely hold you to that!!!

16 days away, unlikely to verify!!!!

The high Shannon entropy means nothing has a high probability at the moment, nothing is certain, so what's showing in 5/6 days time will chop and change

Hi Ian, your forecast is an interesting read and going quite well so far however you did say south/ south west would have very little cold and snow. Coming up to the Half way mark of proper winter and down here in Cornwall we have had around 6 days of severe frosts. A couple of days when it didn't get much above freezing so frost lingered all day. We had a covering of snow last night and looking at the charts there may well be more to come next week. Do you think the cold we are seeing in the charts now will be prolonged going in to February or will we see a milder outlook shortly? (i.e. mild/ warm spring)

A quick question for the knowledgeable-If the cold charts we are seeinging tropospherically in recent days are a result of the warming/split we saw earlier this month, would we be seeing even colder charts for a longer period if we had a full SSW event? If so when the PV reorganises will we see a more zonal/milder outlook for the uk going into February?

Be careful, the cold hasn't happened yet!!

So after frosty period, spring like conditions??

This looks very significant....so is this not going to impact us in any way??? Or is this is why the US are getting very cold??

Thanks for reply CS

Can someone explain to me, why, in around ten days time (according to the ten day forecast) for almost the first time snow is showing with a top (feels like) temp of 2 for Bude. Even though the models are looking poor for cold

On cue

Watch the "winters over" posts come in thick and fast after this bit of news

I very much agree with this post.we may have to wait a few years, until the sun enters it's long slumber, but have a feeling the wait will be worth it.. Very cold UK winters may continue from 2017/18 onwards. All the positive background signals in favour of a cold winter this year (high SAI, very negative Opi, -QBO,good strat signals, busted up PV, etc) may have all been outweighed by the solar output. This is just my opinion and maybe brushed aside by the more knowledgeable folk in here, but if the next solar min is a deep one and our winters start getting colder again around 2018/19 then exciting weather forecasting times lie ahead

I think some of you could do with taking a break from looking at every single model run No we have the luxury of having over 2/3 rds of it left

The weather definitely interested me post xmas...gave us a real taste of winter down here in cornwall...three crisp fridget ice days, the likes we haven't seen since March 2013... Gave a real yearning for more

Sorry I should have worded that differently- there has been no discussion with other experts over in the strat thread regarding no SSW.This may well be they are busy on new years eve

No news about this from the experts over in the strat thread, so this comment is a bit confusing

At least we have a possible SSW to look forward to, just to observe it will be fun, if we benefit from it tropospherically will be a bonus too

So week 3,4,5,6,7,8+ could be cold, not a bad position to be in really