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Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Why ? How can the energy go South from that position ? Mid-latitude High - at best, possibly even worse by T168. These charts are not to be relied upon, many times over the last year the NWP has overtaken the trends being projected by the anomaly charts. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, a very quick collapse in even the Northerly and I think we are just looking at HP ridging in. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Well northerly now virtually gone on the ECM as per the GFS. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I think a T168 would see HP on top of us. -
Even that now looks unlikely, quite a dramatic downgrading of the northerly.
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Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Not on this GFS run, the PPN would be rain for most then only a brief window of colder uppers before less cold air moves back in. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Are you feeling alright HD ? Seriously yes LP over Southern Europe will prevent a return to conventional zonality. It was hard to see where the METO were coming from a week or more ago with their call for below average temps but at times unsettled conditions especially for the Southern half but that looks where we headed post the Northerly. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
GFS and UKMO are quite similar at T144 with placement of the High not as far as NW as on some of last nights output, hence any easterly is more short lived. ECM is very messy, looking like it is going to go one way then pulling something out of the fire later on. As they say, more runs needed. -
North West Regional Discussion 29th March 2013 14:00hrs>
Ian Brown replied to Snowangel-MK's topic in Regional
I'm sure people around Chester/Liverpool/W Cumbria wouldn't say that. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes it was difficult to see this coming, particularly as the Strat thread indicated a return to zonality. Of course a long way to go yet and to newer members I would say that if zonality is shown at T168 it is a virtual given, if easterlies are shown then it is well beyond the reliable timeframe. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Breasts out or breasts up Steve ? If the easterly comes off the formation is rather than different than 2010, and rather than a flood of cold uppers from the E/NE, it's a set-up that just sends the air from the East our way, which isn't that cold and would soon be running on empty after an initial burst. That could change a little bit nearer the time, but the reality of it, cold and raw but perhaps not cold enough should be realised rather than the eye candy of the Meteociel charts. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
He has gone to the gym. No point in looking further than T168 other than just for fun because the key factors are T120-T144 and just throwing a little bit more energy further North would have made day 7 look very different. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It's knife edge at T144 you have to say, could go either way at T168. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, ECM looks like sending enough energy Northwards to be more like the UKMO come T144. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
We shouldn't get carried away with the GFS. The northerly blast is coming and the UKMO shows the far more likely end game for it with a toppling of some sort arriving from the West at T144 - expect the ECM to be much more like this than the GFS. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Whoa ! This is the GFS and moreover the GFS 06Z that we are talking about. Interesting to see if something can be sustained though as my interpretation of the Strat boys thread is that we should be looking at zonality returning. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ECM is a more realistic outcome following the northerly, the interesting thing is that low heights are maintained over Europe throughout the run. The GFS has done one of its sudden lurches that moves not only towards the other models but past them and must be treated with great caution. -
Yes, looks pretty grim for us tomorrow especially in the morning.
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Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Northelies don't last long, there will be some sort of toppling and cutting off of the cold uppers. It's what happens afterwards and I would still be sceptical about a true Greenland High coming into fruition. Anybody who watched the GFS last winter will know of it's obsession with pushing the jet into Scandinavia with pressure rising to the South. -
Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, the Irish Sea can turn things the wrong side of marginal as late as early December from such set-ups. -
Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The High has toppled over the UK by T240 but look at the very low heights over Europe - it would either remain at mid-latitude or set up another cold shot. -
Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I'm not and I think they are far too simplistic. If we are in for a Dec 2010 then fair enough, but I think generally they reinforce the Express type extremist view of the weather. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Thanks Matt, the same model did perform poorly this time last year though, continually modelling +ve anomalies over Greenland and Iceland that never materialised. -
Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
That's knackered it then. -
Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013
Ian Brown replied to phil nw.'s topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, low heights over Europe essentially prevents a return to mild, but with low heights at Northern latitude we are not going to get HLB either. Garbagebags - it's going to be a long winter for you if you agonise over each run like this - especially the GFS 06z.