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Winter 2013-2014 Discussion- Part 2
Ian Brown replied to Cheshire Freeze's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Yes it's a shame that the phrase can't be typed, as the originator I would hope that this will be relaxed over time particularly as I accept that we are now post mdrn -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes and would certainly tie in with the low pressure at Northern latitudes eventually winning the day. 06z continues on the same theme. -
Weather in the general media (Newspaper features etc)
Ian Brown replied to Summer Sun's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Agreed Gav this is absolutely crazy and hopefully people will realise this week when snow fails to materialise that the newspaper and its sensationalism deserves zero credibility. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Thanks Ian that fits in with a set-up of the High gradually declining E/SE. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes the 'northerly' now looks completely different to what looked on the cards a few days ago - and with norherlies you normally have a greater leeway than with easterlies, where your timeframes for accuracy are T72, maximum T96. I disagree Phil and the trend is there in the NWP for the erosion to come from the North from day 12 onwards, but of course that is a long way off. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, even in the middle of the winter the outcome would be the same from his sort of feature, principally your chances of seeing snow on low ground from it at the beginning and end of the event as the bulk of the PPN is contained within the warmer segment of the feature. I think what we are seeing is a trend for lower heights at Northern latitudes in FI as the models reflect the Strat cooling. Time for changes of course but our mid-latitude High looks like coming under pressure from the jet. -
Winter 2013-2014 Discussion- Part 2
Ian Brown replied to Cheshire Freeze's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Really ? I have a friend near you who will tell me what actually happens. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I didn't say that Shaun, it was a comment in the Strat thread to contradict some of the NWP. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ECM closer to the GFS than the UKMO at T120, it does though look like the Atlantic energy will go under so T144 could be a move towards the UKMO position at that timeframe. Lots of uncertainty. -
I'd rather have anything other than the zonality of the last month.
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Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It's difficult to say, if it was coming down from the NW in a polar flow then areas on the Eastern and Northern side would probably see all snow but it isn't clear how it is going to develop. Certainly at the moment the METO see it as rain for low levels in the North and the Midlands. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
No, assuming it develops like that, it will contain a warm sector, even in the middle of winter, so that even if you have cold enough air in place ahead the bulk of what comes from it would be rain, certainly at low level. Then if colder air is chasing on behind you can get back edge snow on the Northern side. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I feel that the UKMO at T144 is not a chart to put great faith in, we saw the other night how it backtracked in the morning from a certain position. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It can't happen from that position. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The jet is going to go over the top but low heights over S Europe mean that mid-latitude HP is likely for some time. -
Winter 2013-2014 Discussion- Part 2
Ian Brown replied to Cheshire Freeze's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
I don't think you will see temps as low as that, winds are too West of North. And any snow will be of the wet variety. -
Winter 2013-2014 Discussion- Part 2
Ian Brown replied to Cheshire Freeze's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
The sea is a considerably modifier at this time of year, and I would think that you would need to be on high ground Tuesday/wednesday to see settling snow, with some wet snow possible at lower levels in the North. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I don't dispute that John, but people make provisions when forecasts like that are given out, and although not over-hyped like something you would see in the Express, we know now that it is erroneous. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Shaun, Tuesday-Thursday is now well in the range of the models and the output now contradicts what the TV forecasts are saying. As for the Strat thread, I do feel too much importance is placed on it in some circles, but the output in recent days did go strongly against what has been the theme over there in recent weeks; a 'normal' cooling that should lead to a zonal December. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Well day 10 is a long way off but the PV is becoming well organised to the NW by then and we know what would be coming. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
We certainly had a couple of let downs last November even before the December debacle. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It only merits that comment if you are going to pull the LP down from N Scandi, which you are not because the jet will just link up with the Low heights over Europe, holding the cold air to the NE. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Only the low heights over Italy are preventing a Bartlett style sinker, perhaps remaining settled to day 9 before it does sink. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
CC, the charts are a huge downgrade. Of course there are worst charts than the T144, but how do you get back to HLB from there ? It's a chart with no optimism. -
Model Output Discussion 13/11/13 >
Ian Brown replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, and the jet had ridden well over the top, this isn't going to be pretty going on - except for you Gav !