Paul White.

You know I am just watching the sat animation and the storm does seem a little further north. Have a look http://www.yr.no/satellitt/europa_animasjon.html and as for the rainfall that looks further north also http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ What do people think? I know that posters have mentioned that the models have been woeful , but they did pick the storm out a week ago I know its 600 miles out for us but that's round about 1% of the Earth's circumference so the margin for error imo is pretty outstanding Regards Paul

Well Sunday looks quite a cold day minus 5s to 10s on the 850s http://hw.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20111213/06/144/h850t850eu.png

I agree but the phrase that really bakes my noodle is "Blowtorth SWs" As for tonight's models nothing set yet, it's North its South (Fridays Storm) Maybe we should a all play a game a bit like spot the ball but this one we pin the low's centre and we can lobby Net Weather to provide 6 months worth of Extra

Hi could you explain please why you don't think it will come off. It does seem to me that as the jet is slipping further south more and more pm air is being circulated through the uk to bring snow to many areas. That's my take anyway Paul

It has, its been a wonderful surprise for us in Huddersfield, Reading the model thread yesterday with all of the doom and gloom people saying things like wet snow no settling etc. They were wrong and the beeb were spot on. I was reading things like the oc istherm was against the snow but it just shows a little bit of magic and believe and the snow will come lol.

I am sorry but you are wrong the definition of this thread is Model Output Discussion and as pedandtic as it is the GFS goes out to 384hrs every run all of this FI has been added to the internet forums. But the fact remains that whilst any model went out to timbucktoo hrs it would be allowed to be discussed within this room.I personally like to look at at the end of a model run to A see if a trend is there B see how close to the mark the model run is 15 days later. So SM TEITS TAMARA GP KOLD HAPPY and you Lewis please keep up the good work with your inputs I really apreiciate it. But please dont all get hangups etc its only the weather. I think tonights 18z is magnificant with huge potential towards the end.

http://charts.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20100128/18/252/h500slp.png Good God best get the huskeys

I might be missreading that but forgive me, in other words it does not fit the NAO for the ridge to be too far east. Does that make sense? Not sure if that reads right :lol:

Even with a negative NAO + AO and a possible strat warming? With these factors in play I would punt for a average feb maybe slightly cooler than 30 year CET

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That is brilliant EITS. But for gawds sake dont mention larks and whatever you do dont bring the winter cut off date outof the wood work alas D Allan on snow watch. OOh remember them dark days of model watching lol. Todays 12z in my eyes is defo a step in the right direction if your blend of Tea is of the cold type.

I think we need to be carefull though about posting charts that far out 300 hrs + I have been lurking here for the last 6 years and my Mrs thinks that I am a saddo geek for the weather but after all it is the model output thread and I suppose the charts that we have just posted are relivent to the thread and could occur. I wonder if the GFS has picked up northern blocking signal for the end of Jan into feb maybe to program knows that blocking normally occurs within Feb.

FI I know but surly the eye candy chart of the day. 324hrs gfs 18z.

upto 140hrs on the gfs 18z and the waa is very evident over towards iceland heights buiding well to the north east in my ltd view should help to pull the easterly close to the east coast and beyond.

Dont get me wrong the weather over the last month has what we have all been wanting (almost the holy grail lol) and I am eagerly awaiting the progged easterly for next week. But i could not agree any more about the conditions that you have described above. I drive a transit pickup van rear wheel drive and believe me trying to get up hills this morning was somthing that i would not want attempt again in a hurry i had to park up wait for daylight, but luckly I had some salt on the back of my van so i took it upon my self to salt the road just so I could get goin. Made my way to work in the end but was very difficult to get things done.

If its anything like this morning then OMG in huddersfield the black ice was totally unbelievable. I love the snow but black ice forget it I am just down the road from you on Gledholt near near Green head park I must say i bet its been quite dodgy up scape over the last month

I have just looked at the GFS Max temp charts and I had to wait until it got to 192hrs for it to show the temps here in Huddersfield to get above freezing. Paul

Hi is this post from your own point of view? for your area perhaps. I have just looked at the GFS 18z and it shows me cold temps at the surface for the next 5 days, with a slight warm up towards next weekend but only returning to average january temps. This has been a remarkable spell of cold weather and I can see us all in the future winters posting charts in deepest parts of FI with slogans like "Jan 2010 anyone" But anyhow the models are showing for where I live in the Huddersfield area that headlines of (Cold spell is OVER!!!) are in fact unfounded at the moment and they show that we have more snow forcast for the next 2 days or so. less we forget its been a cracking winter thus far Paul

This is not a model output post. Model mood thread would be better. The 12z GFS looks very good for some sustained and prolonged cold plenty of convenction opportunities.