Skullzrulerz

High risk/High reward scenario? Doesn't look like it's going to pay off in our favour this time?

Is it best to keep the low as far west as possible? I still don't understand how it's rapidly gaining in strength that quickly

This is nuts! I never seen charts like this in my lifetime! Clearly the pub run has started early for GFS! Hopefully when the GFS gets sober it might start getting more realistic charts.

Or instead just stays there.. Is that even a good thing if it goes back west?

I'm really hoping that the ECM delivers tonight, not feeling too confident at the moment. (With the longevity of this spell?)

For most of England yes that is true, however for costal areas, parts of Wales and the south west they do recover temperatures back to around average. I guess we can't complain tbh

Disappointing start, noteworthy cold is gone even before the weekend. Not to say that low will deepen because it's near impossible but gets strong enough it will wreak the entire thing!

Don't really know what to say about the models this morning. Cold does seem to be better in the short term, yet these lows that almost come out of nowhere seems to be a big spanner in the way of things. While understandably in the medium to long term, breakdowns are here and there but remain in the minority. The majority of the UK is set to receive these even colder conditions sometime mid next week, but for the Southwest and parts of Wales it's not looking likely at this time. No point even discussing snowfall till it reaches a nowcast/short range.

This low is really causing headaches, would be so much easier if the low didn't exist in the first place! It has the possibility of messing everything up!

That Azores low is definitely concerning, it could ruin this entire set up. I did see the GFS run this morning, absolutely mental with that "hurricane" low.

Good or bad?

And southwesterners?

Dispute being around 200m above sea level, yes I can agree with that.

East? We need it further west?

Kasim has every right to a opinion, regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be. Although it remains outside the reliable timeframe it's something to look out for.

How on is Cornwall escaping these temperatures! We are quite a unlucky bunch!

Not feeling very positive with the GFS, while it's good in the short term it goes balls up after. There is momentum that will shift to a unfavourable position for coldies. The ECM had this last night and the GFS this morning.

At least we have at last... Regarding this low, it's supposed to keep the cold air coming in for longer? Though it's not as good compared to evening runs. Hopefully they are no more major changes.

Mixed bag don't you think? Colder air further south but the low isn't as good.

Have we forgotten how consistent the ECM was till yesterday? If my memory serves me correctly,GFS was flip flopping all the place while the ECM stayed the course until yesterday that is.

The GFS Pub run is definitely something, however I think tomorrow's runs especially the ECM is going to be a big reality check.

Would like a beer instead please lol

That's not what he's trying to say, momentum is going away from the prolonged cold that was shown earlier, instead it may be chilly being slightly below normal temps for the time of year. The "Cold Spell" isn't doomed but it's being watered down. Doesn't mean to say later on we may have our chance at getting something more noticeable.

Should of been the case from the get go, people are or were expecting too much. They may still be a chance or two for things to turn around but when the herd moves it moves.

You can't help but laugh! No matter how many factors we have for even a chance at prolonged, snowy weather. It almost never pulls off.