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"A British man who has been diagnosed with the coronavirus has told Radio 4's Broadcasting House that he was "shocked" at the lack of information and testing when he arrived back in the UK from a skiing holiday in northern Italy.
He flew home from the Austrian city of Innsbruck, just across the border from Italy, to Manchester Airport last weekend.
"It was rather strange... when, we got in to Manchester [airport] there was no mention of coronavirus whatsoever - no advice, no checks... I was a little shocked to be honest," he told the BBC's Luke Jones.
He said he and his wife took the decision to self-isolate after being in a ski resort packed with local tourists.
He describes the illness as starting with "a bit of a dry cough - and then suddenly feeling feverish".
He attended a pod for a swab test after speaking to NHS 111 and learned he had tested positive three days later.
"By self-isolating, think of all the lives we've saved," he said, on the radio.
He says he is now "well-recovered". His wife did not test positive, but both remain in self-isolation.
"We are both self-employed and this is affecting our income a little, but you've got to do what you've got to do - and we did the right thing."" (Source: BBC live)
For all the "less sensible" (putting it politely) people out there, thankfully there are some and hopefully many who make good and considerate decisions.
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An Easyjet flight from Porto to Lyon has been diverted to Toulouse over suspicions that several passengers may be infected.
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6 minutes ago, ArHu3 said:
What would you suggest I do? I can't stay quarantined for 2 weeks, I would have no income nor someone to do groceries. I should starve myself because I have a cough?
Here's a little something for you to think about, if you would like to:
Kohlberg - Moral Development | Simply Psychology
WWW.SIMPLYPSYCHOLOGY.ORGYou have used the pronoun "I" five times above. This disease is not "a cough". Yes, 80% of people will probably get a relatively mild illness but that leaves 20% who won't and even if you prefer not to think of those people, then there are those of us who do and who will. Thankfully the authorities will also think of them as well.
At times like this we need to show the collective-oriented, human side of our humanity - for the good of everyone, including ourselves.
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I think they may be waiting until after 1800, when Macron is holding his council of defence meeting, to give out today's French case numbers.
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6 minutes ago, ArHu3 said:
I do know for sure that when I get flu like symptoms I will surely not report to the doctor unless I get into respiratory distress and risk being forced into quarantine for 2 weeks, although that's probably better than a hospital where you run the additional risk of getting a severe secondary nosocomial infection
Would you self quarantine if you had symptoms that could be COVID-19? If not, what would you do - continue to move around in public and go about your daily life potentially spreading the disease to others, some of whom may be vulnerable enough to die from it? I hope not...
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No update on French numbers yet today. Perhaps the calculators can't cope...
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Just now, Azazel said:
Believe me myself and a few others have tried. I was actually supposed to be going with them but I pulled out. Some people are just extremely naive and nonplussed and refuse to believe this is anything other than a big fuss over nothing even though it’s unravelling infront of them.
If I had friends like that I'd be asking myself why I had friends like that! Sorry - they're just being completely irresponsible.
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This is an interesting one,
The French Labour Minister has said that 900 French companies have applied for partial staff layoffs, affecting 15,000 employees due to economic/financial concerns around COVID-19.
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14 minutes ago, Azazel said:
I think people making light of/insulting those buying extra toilet paper are missing the point.
I have brought extra toilet paper in case we are quarantined at short notice or if there is an issue with supermarkets and supply chains so in the event I need to take a dump, I don’t have to wipe my bum with A4 paper.
As several news articles have said, though, there is a balance. Buying what you need for a two week potential isolation is one thing, buying huge quantities that are well beyond what you need for that period is quite another as it leaves other people without the means to sustain themselves for a potential two week period. People need to make rational purchases and answer honestly as to how much toilet roll they use in a typical week. You can then buy twice this amount, put it away in case of emergency and just buy normally. The same applies to food and healthcare products. Stripping the shelves is anti-social and very selfish. For me, the epitome of disgraceful behaviour is the mentality of people who are trying to make a profit from this crisis by selling scarce essential products like hand sanitiser at hyper-inflated prices. I think people doing this on Amazon, eBay or wherever should be tracked down and made to give the money back to purchasers. Ultimately it needs to be made a criminal offence. The law is there as a common denominator to protect us all and there are times when it needs to be used.
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Back to toilets I'm afraid. I don't flush my toilet paper, I can't because the very old drains around the house can't cope with it. The pipes are ceramic and the rough patches in places cause the paper to catch, creating a blockage. When we first moved in we had two blockages that were extremely difficult and unpleasant to clear and we stopped flushing paper after that. My paper goes in a toilet bin in a bag and then into the main household waste. This is a very common practice in France where small pipe diameter can also be problematic. This is also the case in other countries. This means that there is lots of potentially infected material moving around if, as we suspect, COVID-19 can spread via faecal matter.
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"The health care system in the Italian region of Lombardy is on the brink of collapse, the head of its crisis response unit has said.
"We're now being forced to set up intensive care treatment in corridors, in operating theatres, in recovery rooms. We've emptied entire hospital sections to make space for seriously sick people," Antonio Pesenti told the Corriere della Sera newspaper.
"One of the best health systems in the world, in Lombardy, is a step away from collapse," he said." (Source: BBC live)
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First case in the neighbouring département of Corrèze. Haute-Vienne, Creuse and Corrèze used to be called Limousin before boundaries were restructured and we were amalgamated into Nouvelle Aquitaine.
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949 cases in France tonight at close of BFMTV live and 16 deaths.
I'm afraid doglet and I fell asleep on the sofa. Hes' now gone to bed and I will befollowing his example pretty soon!
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949 cases in France and 16 deaths.
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Just now, nick sussex said:
I’m going to be cancelling my trip to the UK due late March .
One of my friends travelling with me has asthma and ferry trips there and back , and staying in hotels northern France which is badly hit doesn’t seem very sensible .
In two weeks who knows how bad the situation might be especially here . And who knows what restrictions might be in place by then .
Good idea, Nick. Finally, if this happens more often, it might make that "small island" know that it goes both ways - eh?
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32 minutes ago, Snipper said:
It is great for likes of us who have a garden and are into homely cooking type stuff but many due to upbringing and living in a flat might not have the same advantages. Possibly a bit late now to say get baking and gardening. Unfortunately a lot of the younger generation couldn’t see the need to have backup skills. The take away is only round the corner so why worry?
I guess we taught the wrong things eh? With my classes (I am a given up/not retired management lecturer) I would always use examples/ideas/exerecises of survival. We played the usual games of people out of the ballooon etc. but one of the most telling was an exercise where your plane had crashed in (wherever) and you had a limited number of items to prioritise (you could adapt the game as you saw fit). This always really brought out the poor skills that the majority of young folks have vis a vis survival.
Being able to skin, gut and cook a rabbit and make a good fire to cook it on has its advantages - even if it's just for the good taste and enjoyment. Fishing too - how many kids these these days would know what to do with a rod, let alone a hook and priest...
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4 minutes ago, snefnug said:
We live in a village -8 miles from nearest towns, 8 miles from nearest supermarket. We both work from home, within the valley so don’t tend to do more than a weekly or at the most twice weekly shop. I also shop for elderly clients. We have a collective group who buy bulk whole foods and other goods from Suma Wholesale on a quarterly basis and our last order was February, so house already stocked to the gunnels with toilet paper, flour, oats, dried lentils beans etc (toilet paper will come in handy...), tinned tomatoes, tinned coconut milk, Oatly Milk etc. Also buy local half lamb and pork. Bake own bread anyway. So supermarket purchases mainly cat food, milk, wine, and tinned fish. Still have chard, beets and kale in garden, some harvested winter squash and a goodly few onions. Thank heavens for this mild winter (hush yo mouff to say that in Netweather!). There is a spar in the village, but it makes sense to use it only if we need to. There are many people here who need it more than we do.
Just like ,me. The freezer and larder (bottled fruit) is stocked with the produce of last year. Plenty of baking capacity. Our local shop is a lifeline too.
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1 minute ago, Bristle boy said:
Nick, the messages here in UK have been quite clear for a number of weeks about hygiene, etc.
Granted, the NHS would struggle under 000s of severe cases.
I suspect France, Italy, Germany are feeling the pressure, almost disbelief, because their healthcare systems are known as best in Europe.
Will share this (consent agreed between the two of us). I just had a chat with my doctor who was visiting my neighbour. Doctor, utterly exhausted, came in for a cup of tea - typical day - surgery 0800-1200 house calls 1200-2000 weekdays), just finished today at 1800. He said everyone who has a sore throat/sniffle is panicking about having COVID-19. It is making life hell and could stop real patients presenting. No protective wear as promised by the government, just him and his surgery diagnostics.
Our healthcare system is among the best in the world but we can't keep up the defenses forever...
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31 minutes ago, cyclonic happiness said:
I bought three bags of flour, i'll make bread if I'm unable to buy any.....surely everyone can bake bread???
It's really easy. Despite being in France, the best country for bread in the world (IMO) I like to bake. I like to add dried or fresh fruit and nuts. PM me if you want a really simple talk through if things get difficult and you need to bake. I'll help anyone with anything when I have time, so you might have to wait a while during the week when I am helping others for work...
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26 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
Looks like the Alsace religious festival has infected a huge amount of people . This doesn’t look like simply one carrier super spreading .
There are far too many cases popping up now and something has gone seriously wrong there .
The latest case is a women from the Bearn region who after attending the festival went skiing for a week in the Hautes Alpes , apparently she came into contact with many other skiers .
To make matters worse she returned by bus to the Bearn . Authorities are now searching for anyone who was on that bus and had close contact with her .
Given the huge amount of people at that festival and the likelihood that they were from across France this looks likely to further increase the spread .
An unaccounted and uncontained potential spread. No record of attedndees as I said earlier. A bizarre scenario - I hope they are praying to their deity, not just for themselves but for the rest of us...
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1 minute ago, Gael_Force said:
Since we neither got snow or sunshine this winter, add some cod liver oil capsules to your shopping lists.
Vitamin D and the Immune System
WWW.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOVIt is now clear that vitamin D has important roles in addition to its classic effects on calcium and bone homeostasis. As the vitamin D receptor is expressed on...Ia lready eat loads of oily fish per week and Mylo has sardines with every meal! Should suffice...
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10 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:
Just been to do the weekly shop in Sainsburys and Pasta, tinned goods, flour, cleaning products were all pretty much empty.
This was toilet paper:
Sorry, forgot to add to earlier post. WTF are people doing with flour? Are they suddenly going to start baking or will they eat it like porridge? Mllaahh...
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4 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:
Just been to do the weekly shop in Sainsburys and Pasta, tinned goods, flour, cleaning products were all pretty much empty.
This was toilet paper:
Or lack of it. I've just been to my trusty local shop. People don't panic like townies here and I was able to buy a pack of 12 rolls to do me for the next week or so in addition to what I haveand there is loads left. I also bought and dropped in a smaller pack for one of my clients.
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3rd case in French Parliament, another deputée.
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Novel Coronavirus – China
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I was just out for a nice dog walk and chucker ball play in the thick drizzle.Not what I wanted to come back to...