Spikecollie
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1 minute ago, Azazel said:
*raises hand* - I’ve either got the start of a cold or something the stress has done a number on me. Tickly feeling in the back of my throat all day, feel a bit warm and I feel exhausted.
MY OH has a cold. It is a cold and nothing more but because he is alone he has worked himself into a right state and was nearly in tears this evening on the phone, terrified that he would get so ill that he wouldn't be able to get help. Everything has calmed down now after a nice reassuring talk and a bit of relaxation. He's going to stay off work tomorrow and just have a nice relaxing day. I think we're going to get him over here next weekend rather than the beginning of April as I'm not sure how long my state of mind can hold out either. This thing that has come among us is responsible for a lot more than physical illness...
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5 minutes ago, cyclonic happiness said:
just been in the local shop to get some bits, the shopkeeper who i've known for around 12 years immediately covered his face with a scarf and looked terrible.
He was not himself at all, it was so weird.... I always have a good laugh and joke, but he looked scared to death?! He raised the scarf over his face again when he served me, he made sure not to touch the money with his fingerless gloves (gloves in a shop?) I asked if he was ok, he said "yeah fine" in a muffled voice. Now i don't know what to think??? He looked so ill
I absolutely swear on my mother's life that this is just what has taken place
People are genuinely terrified of this. Genuine panic can make people look (and feel) really ill.
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Macron has (quite rightly in my opinion) defended against a nationalist backlash on border closures, saying that the virus does not respect borders and that any closures, if they are pertinent, will be taken at a European level. (Source: BFMTV live)
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11 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
All French schools and universities to shut on Monday .
Essential workers needed to combat the virus spread will still be able to access childcare with special centres set up . This is an excellent idea and means doctors , nurses etc won’t have to take time off to look after their children .
And French experts think children are transmitting the virus in high quantities and that’s why Macron has come to the decision to shut education establishments.
Good move and it's until further notice rather than a definite date like Ireland. But why are the municipal elections being allowed to go ahead (at the moment) on Sunday? People have been asked to bring their own pens but how many will? A large proportion of the population touching tables, curtains around the booths and pens does not seem like the best idea right now. Another example of the slightly expedient and non-joined up thinking around this...
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1 minute ago, Snipper said:
How many in France? Beginning to loose track
No update today, yet.
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More than 100 new cases in the UK...
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Right, bed for me.
No nightmares...
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Just now, Snipper said:
Not sure everyone could be so disciplined.
I know, Snipper. Some would be off their faces on whatever and out looting and causing havoc - there would never be enough forces of law and order to go around - and from there it would degenerate. I don't think it would work in the contemporary UK...
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Just now, nick sussex said:
Not to worry Buy American!
I despair !
They'll be despairing soon enough. I've alluded to individualism and the US before but it just keep manifesting - we are OK, we will be OK, we are invincible to this - the values are so deeply rooted in the establishment that even though their individual states are declaring states of emergency, the central message remains. I find it fascinating but also deeply disturbing.
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2 minutes ago, Snipper said:
And if you were living in a flat in the middle of an urban area?
Indoor exercise. Get some window sill potted herbs and veggies going. Start to learn a new language. Knit or sew. DIY. Lots of reading. The list could go on according to your fancy.
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5 minutes ago, Sky Full said:
If this is true, then perversely our best policy is to try and infect as many low-risk people as possible, and as fast as possible, so that they recover on their own, become immune, and then the virus has nowhere to go. In this case gatherings like Cheltenham races are just what is called for so the virus can be passed around as many people as possible! The elderly, infirm and sufferers from chronic illnesses will have to be isolated as much as possible in the meantime to keep the number of fatalities to the minimum, but these are the very people who will find it easiest to keep their distance from other people until the danger of infection has passed.
Not sure if there is any scientific basis to this theory and it's likely there is a flaw in the argument somewhere that I'm not seeing. I'm sure there are people on here who will correct me if I have completely misunderstood the way a virus behaves?
Interesting - like an international "chickenpox party"!
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31 minutes ago, Snipper said:
Is the reason France has more cases than UK because you an hour ahead of us?
Probably - anything is plausible these days!
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1 minute ago, Snipper said:
So you are in a lock down area or quarantined what are you going to do with your time?
Lots of running with doglet, gardening and DIY! Assuming I/we stayed well, we have enough food to last for months and plenty of capacity now spring is here to grow more. I assume that being on a permanent contract I'd be paid at least something (or compensated) for quite a while so that doesn't worry me. It's the people I work with that I would be worried for, the elderly, ill and disabled - scared witless, surrounded by perceived or actual chaos and helpless.
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10 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:
Similar could happen in UK with say London and the SE getting locked down if they start and see large clusters whilst the rest of UK remains open.
I think it's similar in Italy where they've got loads of cases in Lombardy but fewer cases further south
Sensible thoughts at last! I think some of our younger folk in particular, imagine a B-movie scenario of everyone country/Europe-wide being held in their homes at gunpoint!
By the way, I discovered something interesting today. In current French law there is no mechanism to compulsorily require an individual to comply with a public health order. You can ask but you cannot demand/enforce something like self isolation or quarantine.
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3 minutes ago, kold weather said:
I have to diagree, a lot of European countries already are probably just one step away from going to that place, given many countries have closed schools, banned large events, next step is almost certainly a shutdown like we saw in Italy. Maybe not complete country bans, but large parts of countries may well go down. Hard to complete a competition when large parts of Europe are under lockdowns
Parts of some countries may have more restrictions but only parts. For some reason, that we will eventually come to know, the situation in Italy escalated very quickly. As we have seen from Italy and from the excellent comments from one of our Slovakian members earlier, lockdown is rather a loose term!
I am assumng that the competition you are referring to is football. Sporting and entertainment events are completely non-essential (Cheltenham races should never have been allowed to go ahead) and should be the first to go - sorry!
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A nice piece of news from Italy:
"The Italian government’s decision to put the whole country in lockdown has prompted 200 student volunteers in the northern region of Veneto to “adopt” residents who need help going to the supermarket or pharmacy." (Source: BBC live)
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9 minutes ago, kold weather said:
I mean its not going to be finished this season anyway, so its kind of a pointless exercise now given most of europe is about to go into lockdown in the next 7-14 days, quite possibly including the UK.
I think the Roma match is off as well in the Euopa League tomorrow as well.
The whole of Europe is not going into lockdown imminently. A lot of the cases in France, for example, are very clustered and localised and action may well be taken around them but for those outside these areas, life goes on as normal.
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2 minutes ago, Snipper said:
19.00 uk time?
Yes.
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2 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
The situation in France is quite complicated because there are large clusters in some regions and depts and others have hardly any .
They have put quite a lot of restrictions in those areas .
It’s probably likely that with the age of the internet and the wall to wall media coverage a lot of the public if at all possible will be avoiding those areas .
Which might in turn help to stop a rapid rise in the areas least effected.
I was thinking that way too. Hopefully people will be savvy about internal travel.
With the case in Limoges, I'm now on bigger towns then villages bubble....
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4 minutes ago, Joneseye said:
Link please?
Sorry, it's in French but from BFMTV live and I've done a quick translation:
"Les Etats-Unis envisagent d'interdire l'entrée aux voyageurs venant d'Europe (the US envisages prohibiting entry to travellercoming from Europe)
Les Etats-Unis envisagent d'interdire l'entrée sur leur territoire aux voyageurs venant d'Europe en raison du coronavirus, comme ils l'ont déjà fait pour les personnes en provenance de Chine, a déclaré mercredi un haut responsable américain. ([...]like they did for China)
"Nous nous posons la question de comment traiter l'Europe dans son ensemble", a dit le responsable du département de la Sécurité intérieure, Ken Cuccinelli, lors d'une audition parlementaire. (we ask the question how we treat Europe as whole)
Il a souligné que les consignes déjà renforcées ne permettaient "pas encore" de "bloquer les voyageurs" en provenance du Vieux continent. "Mais nous l'envisageons", a-t-il ajouté." (we hope measures now strengthened will not make this happen yet but we envisage it will happen)
EN DIRECT - Coronavirus: crèches et écoles vont fermer dans 16 communes de l'est de Montpellier
WWW.BFMTV.COMSuivez en direct les derniers bilans et informations sur l'épidémie de coronavirus.-
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3 minutes ago, Snipper said:
But some surely hang on and do their best whatever the circumstances.?
It depends on the criticality of the job. Hanging in there as a doctor in an emergency situation is different to hanging in there in a supermarket. Jobs have a psychological as well as a legal/paperwork contract and sometimes the mental balance just doesn't add up in a person's mind...
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Donald's going to make a declaration this evening (US time).
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Macron's address is tomorrow night at 20h00 and not tonight. The news feed I have been watching has been corrected.
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1 minute ago, CreweCold said:
I meant it generally for any job.
If your job is handsomely paid and involves making tough calls from time to time, someone who can not make tough calls effectively should not be in the job. Unfortunately there is a profligacy of people in jobs who are just not up to it when stuff hits the fan.
If a job sufficiently compromises (and this is a subjective perception/decision) your own mental or physical health - then stuff the job, frankly.
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