[Memories of 1989]

1 hour ago, LetItSnow! said:

 

 

Looking at the overall stats, the summer of 1989 looks absolutely wonderful. I'd take it over 1976, 1995 and 2022. It wasn't just characterised by length (indeed taking into account May and September it knocks 1976 out of the park) but persistently nice temperatures and long sunny, comfortable spells that were hot but not too oppresive. Many of the nighttime temperatures looked comfortable bar a really sticky looking spell from the 20th to the 25th of July which was the hottest spell of the entire year. I'd be very happy to have a summer like 1989 in 2024, May and September included. We've had so much rain that I think we would be just fine... Just no winter like 1988/1989 for 2023/2024 and 1989/1990 for 2024/2025 please!!!

 

 

nope 1995 was better IMO by a distance ..1989 was quite oppressive esp late June and July (decent storms in 1989 more thundery than 1995) reason 1995 was better it was a dry heat not too dissimilar to July 1983 which i again rate over July 1989...i would take May-Oct 1995 over the same period in 1989 but the two periods weather wise were very similar in my locations

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

1 hour ago, Weather-history said:

And 70 days nearer to death.....assuming one doesn't die before hand.......why are people wishing their lives away?

just stating facts at no point did i say i wish it was spring..in fact 70 days ago was 9th October it just shows how time flies.

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

only 70 days until the start of spring 

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

49 minutes ago, blizzard81 said:

 

 

that really is an incredibly chart for NA ..above freezing right across the continent almost touching the arctic ocean in places 

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

im surprised no one has mentioned the continued strong basin wide El Nino that continues to hold steady ..IMO this doesn't favour much in the way prolonged cold for the UK going forward 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

1 minute ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:

You're in Calgary right? 

Looks a damn sight better than Britain. Even if it's not thick snow as per usual. 

I'd kill for that forecast over what we've been having and what we currently have. Seeing the sun, for instance, would be nice lol.

no Edmonton 

 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

3 minutes ago, Summer8906 said:

Amazing, would certainly think your part of the world would be snowy!

It does look cold, but presumably the problem is a lack of precipitation.

its not even cold..cold by UK measures but it is 10-20c above normal ..combined with lack of precip.

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

8 minutes ago, Summer8906 said:

 

If we're not going to get proper winter (snow, frost) we may as well go abroad for some warm sunshine and proper daylight.

you think you have it bad..looks like a brown Xmas here..the first this century 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

1 hour ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

whatever bingham, perhaps you could make a top class contribution then to improve it.

people seem to forget this is a moans thread so put it here instead of cluttering up threads elsewhere 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

we didn't get the snow that was forecast last night...happy days 

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

4 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

yes - 09/10 - 3 wave distorted vortex pattern.

couple of examples 

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

11 minutes ago, johncam said:

As north America is a lot milder than normal I thought this was going to benefit us, what happened?

not always the case both continents can be anomalously warm or cold at the same time

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

12 minutes ago, DOdo said:

 

-!0 is the average Temperature this time of year

almost the same as here in Edmonton..Edmonton is drier and much sunnier 

[The changing daylight hours thread]

5 hours ago, Summer Sun said:

 

i need to move to Lowestoft i wont see much in the way of a pre 8am sunrise until April 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

51 minutes ago, *Stormforce~beka* said:

                                                                                                                                           Sunniest places (hours per year)

 Least sunny(hours)Sunniest(hours)

1Bjørnøya (Svalbard, Norway)595.0                                                                              Yuma (USA)4015.3

2Macquarie Island (Australia)806.5                                                                                 Phoenix (USA)3871.6

3Tórshavn (Faroe Islands)841.0                                                                                       Aswan (Egypt)3862.8

4Ostrov Vize (Arctic Russia)914.0                                                                                   Las Vegas (USA)3825.3

5Rio Negro (Brazil)967.9                                                                                                     Tuscon (USA)3806.0

Edmonton gets 321 sunny days per year and is the second sunniest city in Canada just behind Calgary.

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

3 minutes ago, Vikos said:

6z vs 12z

 ----> 

1065 HP over Russia, wow

i think you mean Mongolia

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

28 minutes ago, fromey said:

Above average temps predicted across the pond,  will this will weaken the jet due the lack of thermal gradient 

its been way above average for pretty much all autumn and early winter and will likely remain this way until mid spring..is a typical temp signal for NA for a strong El Nino

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

3 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Oh ok. At least you manage to sandwich in a proper summer!

summers here are great  just too short

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

2 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Blimey. Starts coming back to life Feb if it's mild here. Been occasions when it's been in action early doors. I remember a mild winter think it was 2011/2012 and had the mower out in late Jan !

growing season here is very short late May to early Sept

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

5 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Pleasant enough today. Light breeze. Fair amount of cloud. Not desperately chilly. Had today and tomoz off. Nice day to get the final fall of leaves off the lawn.  Cleaned the lawnmower up. Sprayed a bit of WD40 round it. Keeps it ready for March when it revs in to action again! Cut a few branches back from the years growth. Enjoyable day keeping busy !

I wont need my lawnmower until late May early June thats when the grass start growing again

[Winters months with the Mild, dry, and sunny combination]

11 hours ago, Sun Chaser said:

 

I still think Feb 2019 is the gold standard of winter months, 2008 a close second.

For me it has to be Feb 1998..granted i wasn't in the UK in 2019 ..but it was exceptionally dry exceptionally mild and pretty sunny 

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

39 minutes ago, Chesil View said:

I alluded to this last week as well Catacol. It couldn't could it? 61 years on.

Funnily enough looking at 1962..November and December in my location are almsot identical to the November just gone and the December im having right now and the forecast for the next 14 days 

[Winter 2023/24 Chat and Discussion]

14 hours ago, BartyHater said:

Dunno if it’s OK to have a general moan in here (I’m sure someone will say if it isn’t) and as a newbie I apologise in advance if this has cropped up before, but something is seriously grinding my gears…

TV weather presenters clearly no longer have set criteria with which to describe temperatures, so tonight for instance the local weather guy on BBC Spotlight described overnight lows of 5-8c as ‘cold’. 5-8c isn’t even cold as a daily max in Dec, in fact it’s close to the climatological average.

Bad as this was, sadly I’ve heard far worse. One morning a few weeks ago Isobel Lang said ‘ it really is bitterly cold out there this morning, with temps close to freezing in some places’.

I could go on and on….I won’t, as I’m sure others must have noticed some of the ludicrous language often used to describe absolutely bog standard temperatures.

To be fair I’m sure I allow it to wind me up far to much for my own good/sanity, but rather than screaming at the telly or worse still launching something at the screen, I thought I’d get it off my chest and lower my BP a bit in here.

Bring back Craig Rich 

[How We Know that Global Warming is Accelerating and that the Goal of the Paris Agreement is Dead]

36 minutes ago, DCee said:

It's the rate of change that's most damaging. A warming planet is fine over 10000 or 100000 years, but over 100 years, that's hell for all ecosystems.

says who? again in that respect we have a data set to refer to of exactly zero..its pure supposition..there has been 100+ years of warming without any collapse of ecosystems..which goes against what the doomsayers have been saying for the last 40 years ...i 100% guarantee that in 40 years time you will still be able to honeymoon in the Maldives and wont be wading through the streets of London knee deep in water. i also guarantee in 40 years we will have technologies at hand you cant even think or imagine today.

[Model Output Discussion - Into Winter]

24 minutes ago, jellybaby1969 said:

I have witnessed 14c here in december

in mid December 1991 under similar high with similar uppers temps never got above freezing in southern England with night time temps down to -10c