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  1. 1 hour ago, Norrance said:

    December 1978 was not that cold for the 1980's. CET was 3.7C (would be considered cold now) and included a mix of warm and cold spells. Christmas for example was very mild but New Year freezing. 

    would still have been considered cold back then as it would have been 1c below the 1961-1990 average only 1981 had a colder Dec in the 1980s then you have to go to 1992 to find the next colder Dec ..probably that exceptional cold snow event at the end is what makes it memorable. For Example Jan 1980 was colder than every Jan from 1988 -2010 but no one remembers it. 

  2.   @johncam difficult to notice because winters are so cold. This year has followed a typical El Nino pattern so mild overall is the form horse and I'm expecting an early spring which is typical of such years..in general the stats show that most of the warming in the last 50 years have come in the form of warmer winters..spring and autumn have hardly changed whilst summers have cooled very slightly 

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  3. 28 minutes ago, raz.org.rain said:

    People already calling a wet and cool summer for 2024. Christ, let's hope it doesn't happen.

     

    the same happened in 2010 was a quick flip to LaNina..summer was really stormy here that year dont know what it was like in the UK?

  4. as a complete neutral (no feelings either way if its cold or not in the UK) IMO the only real problem here is the huge bias towards looking for cold and snow..hence many posters are blinded by that fact and don't give a balanced view of the models which in turn to leads to massive over expectation by others who may not understand what the whole output is showing and thus massive disappointment ensues and finger pointing starts when things don't turn out the way they wanted or expected. Its always been that way and unfortunately anyone who does give a fully balanced viewed will be swamped by hope casting in the winter months.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, CryoraptorA303 said:

    Yes, hence why I said a comparably severe heatwave would see us at around 45°C, and Lytton-like temps would only be seen much further south in France. The PNW seaboard still saw temps in excess of 45°C when their previous records weren't much higher than ours.

    no where in the PNW seaboard saw highs in excess of 45c with the exception of Portland which is further south and had historic highs above 42c previously ..Vancouver topped out at 32c in that hot spell of 2021 ..Prince George interior BC and i was there in that spell reached 42c ...Lytton is in a deep valley in the Rockies so is a well known heat trap ..so i would say PG is a more applicable location to compare places in France etc 

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  6. 23 hours ago, raz.org.rain said:

    British Columbia has a record high of 49°c at roughly the same latitude. Very different dynamics but similar maritime influenced climate.

    BC climate is only comparable to the UK along the coast ..interior BC has a totally different climate as it is set within the Rocky Mountains ..places like Lytton Kelowna and Kamloops have a hot almost arid type climate in summer 

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  7. On 13/01/2024 at 22:43, Weather-history said:

    Cardiff  (max, min °F)

    Jan

    18:  32.8, 25.5

    19:  31.0, 25.0

    20:  27.5, 17.2

    21:  32.8, 20.1

    22:  29.8, 18.8

    23:  33.8, 18.5

    24:  35.0, 30.8

    25:  31.5, 17.9

    26:  21.9, 15.9

    27:  35.1, 19.8

     

     

    Glasgow

    18:  29, 5

    19:  32, 11

    20:  29, 8

    21:  31, 18

    22:  27, 0

    23:  35, 5

    24:  33, 4

     

    Memories of the event years later

    1925                                                                      1929                          1931                                 1939                         1947                             1951

     

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    1963                                                        1964                                                                                                                                      1972

     image.thumb.png.7989e6339a462bace9e87c827b0bc3ca.png      image.thumb.png.c59922c85934ac715925e87c584395ab.png              image.thumb.png.6ab7a9b9aa833b86fa2f7003da8bc0af.png  image.thumb.png.909dd77eca6346f027704292d8deb0f8.png     image.thumb.png.fa0b4ac341333686e945e9d917f12b7b.png

    some of these stories wouldn't be out of place of the stories told on these forums about Dec 1981..100 years later..i wonder if any of us will still be around in 2072 to recount Dec 1981 like the last quote from 1972 about Jan 1881

  8. 3 hours ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:

    Many folk on here speak fondly about the winters of the 80s on Britain, because there were indeed many cold winter seasons in that decade e.g. the 1981-82 'cold wave'. It made me wonder, were the 80s uniquely wintry / snowy for some reason? How do they compare to the winters of the 70s, 60s and 50s for example?

    Can't speak about the 80s obviously as I wasn't born, but I was a child in the 90s (in Essex) and do not recall seeing snow that frequently in winter. We would get "snow days" at school, which were a pure excitement because A) you got the day off and so would just go to the park with friends for snowball fights, and B) they were very rare. Some years would have 1 or 2 snow days max, other years zero. 

    I've actually experienced bigger and more prolonged periods of snow / proper wintry weather in the last 5/6 years than during my childhood in the 90s. 2018 with Beast from the East, February 2021 with the significant (for my area anyway) snowy spell, and then last year in early to mid December where that's undoubtedly the longest I've ever seen snow remaining on the ground in my area in December. 

    i left Essex for good in 1992..Feb 1991 was very cold and snowy as was Dec 1990 somewhat..still had friends and relatives there well into the 2000s.. Dec 1995 and Dec 1996 had cold snowy spells 

  9. On 13/01/2024 at 17:25, qwertyK said:

    It seems like probably since 2020 that although summer tempreatures are getting hotter, winter feels a lot colder. Probably because we've had some mild winters and very mild winter days, like in 2019 when we had a 21C day in February. But I think about the last few years. The winter of 2021 had a fair bit of snow where I am in the south anyway. The following December in 2022 we had really heavy snowfall and lows of like -6C in my area (essex). March 2023 we had some very late snow. This November I was in Southampton and it snowed and didn't get above zero one day. Then it snowed a few days ago, didn't settle but we've had some very low tempreatures being forecast, again, I speak for the southeast. I know it's nothing compared to say 1963 or other years but it seems like there is a trend towards colder maxima in winter, like I can't remember the last time before 2021 where I live where 2C or 4C was the max forecast for some days unless say, 2018 or 2017. Again not much snow but some very cold temps. I think the current cold weather is quite interesting considering it should be pretty mild given El Nino etc. Feels like summers are getting hotter, and winters are getting colder. 

    as someone who grew up in Essex in the 70s and 80s into the 90s ..snow fall and overnight lows of -6c happened pretty much every single winter when i lived there ..only very occasional years there would be little in the way of snow or cold but others there would be bucket loads of the stuff and temps down to -15c and no higher than -5c ..im pretty sure since the early 1990s that has happened maybe once or twice in Essex.

    Summers are hotter and winters are milder ..even though i now live in Canada i can see that my old stomping ground doesn't get the snow and cold it used to.

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