Rambo

Now, I'm not saying I hold absolute faith in the MetO, far from it.....BUT, you're saying you dont have faith because of what the current models show........its that the models that dont go that far out, and aren't even reliable up to day 4??? I wouldn't hold any faith in any outcome past day 4 at the moment, so the best take away from these updates is that they arent showing above average boredom, just be happy about that!

Have you read this thread lol? Or was that a joke?

You what now?

Heavy snow in Leigh now! Trying to settle, but huge flakes none the less!

I understand that, but back in the real world, weather is unpredictable, especially at that range, and even more so for the UK. If we were 50yrs into an ice age with the ice caps just touching Scotland, then I dare say the MetO would be firm on cold weather in a month's time. As that isnt the case, you aren't gonna get that level of certainty I'm afraid!

Troll lol lol

You mean the 0z ECM didnt make much of tuesday lol

Despise your pessimism. (meant in jest of course )

Dont be afraid, its only your opinion, it wont make any difference to the weather!

After that comment, I'll change my comment.....you'd be penniless instead lol

You know, you could make an awful lot of money if you worked for all the global weather forecasting agencies!!

There can be plenty of ramping for sure.....BUT what a lot of people forget (and I'm talking to the ones who accuse well respected posters of ramping and talking BS), is that the majority of posters who are supposedly ramping, are just simply commenting on the model output, and in fact the model output was showing the UK getting quite a hefty battering. If the model output changes overnight (which it frequently does) then it isnt the poster fault that what they said was wrong, because they simple commented on a particular run. However, saying that winter is over, and I told you so, I knew we'd have a dull boring zonal winter bla bla bla, based simply on an opinion, is just as bad as saying we're all gonna be snowed in for weeks and weeks. I dont mean this offensively, but I think a large number of people belong in a goldfish tank sometimes, seeing as they appear to have very short memories lol.

Thing is though, nearly all the models have been hopelessly wrong, you cant pin it on the UKMO ****IF**** things still continue to go pear shaped.

HAHA yep, exactly the same thoughts from me too. I mean there is a small element who only post good charts, but certain people are completely absent, and then suddenly they're posting bad charts as if they either know whats going to happen, or just want to rub it in. They're perfectly entitled to do that obviously, just find it strange, sad, funny, and a bit pathetic really lol

If anything its more the other way round.....its so blatantly obvious that quite a few people are almost completely absent from the MOD thread, and then as soon as there's a downgrade, they absolutely love posting charts that show a slightly worse outcome. Its just people's nature I think, but I do find it funny. There's literally no words to describe that thread, and some of the people in it (from both sides of the camp)

Good to know. Perhaps the climate will be ok after all then!

Surely the Arctic is doing fairly ok considering?

Definitely interesting to see how it pans out

Dont you mean you doubt 2019 will be behind 98? 2018 is already warmer than 98 going by the JMA data.

Out of interest, why is only ads data used, as nsidc never seems to get a mention? Nsidc always paints a better picture, but I've never found any definitive answers as to which data is the best way of measuring sea ice!

Possibly yes, although it "could" be a close run 6th with 1998 going by the decline in global temps over the last couple of years. It'll be a few years after next year that'll be interesting to see if the temps follow the trend as they have previously and spike up again, or continue to drop.

Which could equally be attributed to lower solar output......the trouble is, no one knows...yet

So fingers crossed the weather as usual does the opposite of what you predict (meant in jest of course)

Oops my bad, you're absolutely right, it was the Antarctic thread. There's so many ice threads I got the wrong one, as I didnt read this properly when rushing on my phone!

Good to hear! Pleased that words like "freefall" were a massive over reaction (for now at least)