Empire Of Snow

I don't mind at all members wanting the best outcome regarding snow for their region. Some posts there though are really bizarre. "There's always a southwards correction" etc. It's 4 days, we don't have a clue. We don't even have a clue about tomorrow and Tuesday.

Unfortunately Thursday is FI with the current setup. One thing I really don't like is the South focused posts in the mod thread. Sometimes it's really tiresome to check this thread despite the deep knowledge a lot of fellow members provide.

I don't think this kind of disruption can lead to freezing rain mainly because of the intensity of ppn.

Yes if these charts validate we're talking about almost non stop heavy snow with huge flurries. Too early to get excited. I'll wait until Wednesday.

I've just took a look at the mod thread. There are already members mentioning/wishing a correction south. Typical.

Wow. This is easily 30cm+ for our region? I was already done with this cold snap and now you're sending this charts?

Just checked it! Ok, I'm struggling to believe that there's a possibility to get nearly 48h of continuous snowfall in this country.

What excitement?

It's the type of weather you walk out and you expect right away to see the white stuff falling. But no. Absolutely nothing.

"Pretty good end"? I'm from Greece originally and this is one of the worst winters snow wise I've experienced in my whole life.

The biggest issue is that GFS has lost all its remaining credibility. When you have hundreds of amateur meteorologists saying for 3 days that GFS will not 99.9% verify and the people running it don't care there's a big problem. Yes I know, GFS got right some of the features, but this is not enough. GFS is the "go to" model for many, especially the ones like me that have more than 20 years of model watching. It becomes a habit. That said, I'm almost really done with it. I'll keep studying it here and there but right now I'd rather watch CFS for fun. I don't also care about summer and if GFS verifies with the bloody African subtropical anticyclone. Sorry if it sounds like a rant but it isn't really. I'm just stating the facts.

Yes the other models are definitely feeling bored watching the GFS show. They might come on board in the morning to join the fun.

You can't compare summer to winter weather patterns. It's always easier for most models to forecast the west African subtropical anticyclone.

-4C, freezing fog and heavy frost everywhere. Bizarre difference just a few miles away from Harrogate centre where there's no fog at all and temp was at -1.5C.

-2C already with freezing fog.

Someone east of my location must be getting something from this blob? It's pitch black over there.

Do we have any chance with this ppn to our North or is it going to do a Houdini style disappearance?

True but you can't do anything about sheet ice unless you put on chains and remove them again when the road is clear. Talking about chains, even the Greek driving licence test is introducing now a mandatory lesson how to fit the chains in the vehicle's tyres.

The majority of 4x4s are a nightmare to drive under these conditions. Normal car with winter tyres all the way.

So what's the difference between what amateur forecasters say and METO? I posted a week ago something about METO and I got the stick right away. I understand it's not easy to be accurate regarding weather in UK but what Kasim says is correct.

You don't really rely on their app symbols, do you? Their app is the same horrible quality as most you can find on your phone Store/Market.

It's really a nightmare to forecast weather in this country. I'm so confused. I'm looking at charts and everything and I'm about to give up.

Thank you. I didn't know that. Rebs Abbo shared the photos but he's in Wolds. I can't see there more than 10cm, maybe 15cm? Yes, it can happen with a stream of organised bands of showers. A proper snow event for me is 20cm+ with continuous snowfall 12h+. I'm coming from a place where snow events are coming from Ls and last 48h-72h and in big events we're talking about around 4-5 days of non stop snow. My standards are a bit higher unfortunately.

Yes but we're talking about showers only. Why do we expect a decent event without a proper meteorogical cause? I see all the time the line "have the cold first and everything will follow", this is so overrated. The same applies to an Easterly. We need a proper setup. All these years I'm in Harrogate the best snow events occured when we had a low depression, when fronts were stalling, when organised troughs came through from NW. Sometimes people think that the Irish Sea or the North Sea are the Great Lakes or something.

You're not missing anything tbh. It's that blizzard type snow with strong gusts and it's moving fast. It won't last.