Vikos

not at all, I love your excitment, but -8 in 850hpa near sea is not -8 on ground....

No snow at pos dewpoints and pos 2m .. there where alot of posts here for possible snow, so I find it legitim to mention, that the parameters don't talk for snow... or am I wrong? It's been a bit too enthusiatic... but thtas just my opinion, I may be wrong... I don't know your microclima in surtain parts of UK, but I see those +°C, those are rookie numbers for snow... In Germany we normaly need min -8°C in 850hpa for snowfall wich will deploy a durable snow cover... If hours lasting snowfall in morning hours is you goal to reach, than don't take me too serious... best regards

And what about dew points? Are they irrelative?

I feel sorry for you guys, but I wouldn't expect any serious, longer lasting snow-events looking on this EC-Chart for lower mainland and coast-side Too much west'ly stuff, on low grounds this would be around 5-8°C... just wrong pattern...

Hmm, nah... much more N to NNE, hitting MidEu... UK too close to High on Atlantic....

Looks like a tropospheric split btw

Could be MJO affected

Again, those meteociel-charts 500mb aren't very good... Could end up in a very southern west (Ws) scenario

This chart shows the altitude for the 0°C-Line btw, so 200m could be a bit too low. it maybe snows but i wouldn't expect a snow layer lasting for too long

I am beeing an optimist about it...

Signals are still good for a colder spell in late January, but we should keep in mind, that the tropospheric forecasts for a period like +10-14 days isn't a very logical thing in a chaotic system... Ever had a closer look at a bubble?

This Low-Fastrunner at the french W-Coast

GFS Para sets UK to close to the blocking High

Snow Cover EZ +240h total

@Kirkcaldy Weather you are welcome, I also want to suggest http://wxcharts.eu/?panel=default&model=gfs,gfs,gfs,gfs&region=europe&chart=2mtemp_anom,850temp,wind10mkph,snowdepth&run=12&step=384&plottype=10&lat=51.500&lon=-0.250&skewtstep=0 for even more infos... and https://weathermodels.com/index.php?r=site%2Fpreview&mode=animator

I think UK has to wait a bit more... Coldest day so far but then... MidEU stays under cold, maybe snowcover producing cold ground air

I'd rather use https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=eu&pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2019010912&fh=6 over meteociel... more info + better charts + better menu

Mine is anomaly not mean

I doubt that you want to see the GFS chart for +240h

Looks good, though ....

And EC is flooding N-America/Canada with cold air and plenty of low GeoPot... will be mostly cold and rainy in MidEU...

Yeah, nice cold punch spreading twrds to Canada @ ICON

GFS Op still has this overforced atlantic bias...

Hello friends, been following this Thread for quite a time... thumbs up! I would like to ask you, if those GFS runs can be taken very serious because of the shutdown problem...specially focused on possible missing "human"-error correction (GFS Strong Atlantic Bias) And are there any EC-Charts for t850pa/2m Anomaly avaible for 20.1.+ ? EC looks good for ME my regards from Germany