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  1. Pleasantly surprised today has been so sunny and it’s now 29C. Yesterday was a bit hazier and cloudy at times and with today’s forecast was expecting something similar but it’s been wall to wall sun all day with just some cloud on the western horizon ☀️☀️

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  2. I personally think the solar seasons only work when talking about daylight. If we used them as our main seasons we’d be a month into autumn now and it’s going to be 28-32C all week with trees fully green! In a warm autumn like 2022 we’d still have green trees in early winter! Also May can still be quite cold at night and some trees are still bare like ash, hardly summer.

    Whether you use meteorological or astronomical seasons is down to your location. If you live near the sea, there can be strong seasonal lag. Many places in Atlantic Canada and Japan have September warmer than June so astronomical would probably be best there.

    Some places in the subarctic have strong continentality and are warmer in May than September so meteorological seasons would work best there.

    So I’d say solar seasons when talking about daylight, meteorological in areas with normal or weak seasonal lag and astronomical in areas with strong seasonal lag.

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  3. One of the strangest summers I can recall this year I think. My take on Summer 2023:

    June - 9/10. Cold start but mostly sunny with cold misty interludes. Fantastic from 10th onwards with constant warmth and sunshine with some great thunderstorms.

    July - 1/10. Terrible throughout. I was in the far north the first week and felt extremely cold for July (we were in winter coats). Very wet and dull throughout with no redeeming features.

    August - 5/10. Horrid start especially 5th. Improved to a decent middle third, fairly dry and warm but then descended to a miserable last week.

    Overall 5/10. Felt worse because of the lack of sun from end of June onwards and that July is the most important summer month.

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  4. 5 hours ago, reef said:

    I think its just generally cooler. August cools rapidly through the month. By 28th August, the 1991-2020 average maximum here is 19.6C. Today we reached 19.4C so pretty close.

    Looking back through my records, in 43 years only 5 individual days have surpassed 25C in the period 28th-31st August.

     

    I mean it is a bit cooler on average than high summer but it could easily be hot and sunny. September is even later but can still bring in the heat.

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  5. Why is it always cold at this time of year?! Well I don’t know about always but it seems to be a common theme for the last few days of August to regularly be colder than average. Last year was warm but 2021 and 2020 were really dull and chilly around now and I remember 2015 and 2012 were really cold in late August.

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  6. More rotten weather from Thursday and onwards. June is the only nice month in the sun high half of the year so far. The GFS looks awful going into September as well. Longest period without a plume I can think of in July and August and we’ve only got a month or so left of heat potential.

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  7. If this summer comes out as a top 20 or so summer you’re going to get a lot of climate change denial all over social media with ‘hoax this summer’s been rubbish’ type of comments. You see it all the time under the Met Offices Instagram. That June’s a distant memory now!

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  8. 6 hours ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:

    Forecast is now downgrading tomorrow from partly sunny to...basically just overcast (apparently the sun might pop out at 7/8pm lol). 

    2023 is officially becoming the year we didn't have a true summer. Worse than 2012 for me. 

    I don’t see how this summer could be seen as worse than 2012. July yes, that was awful but June was great at least after the first week and we don’t know what the rest of August is going to be like. Summer 2012 was terrible in June and July and was extremely dull and wet throughout.

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  9. Well we’ve come to the last day of this dire July and good riddance! I do think August will be better, not because I think it’ll be great, but more because I don’t think you can get much worse than this July. Not only that, I can’t think of a two month period in summer without at least some hot weather so surely August MUST provide something. This pattern can’t go on forever… 

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  10. This is turning into an iconic stinker now I think. I can’t think of any other July with such suppressed temperatures and lack of warmth.
    I can imagine in a few years if the models are showing dross people will be saying ‘July 2023 vibes from this chart’ and then gasping in horror 🤣

    It’s also turning into one of those stark contrast months like July 2006/July 2007 and July 2012/July 2013.

    July 2022/July 2023 but also June 2023/July 2023.

     

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  11. 37 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

    2003 was iconic as well. Late May through September/October. 2006 was magnificent June/July but August was rubbish. 

    2022 had a long period of sunnier than average months from March to August (except May and without the larger sunshine anomalies) and all three summer months were warmer, drier and sunnier than average. 2022 wasn’t as good as the classic May to July 2018 but for meteorological summer when’s the last time we had that?

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  12. I’m my area 2018 had a good June with a dry and warm first two thirds and then an amazing hot final third which lasted all the way to the end of July. August 2018 was very average.

    2022 had a mixed June with plenty of heat as well as crud. July started a bit dodgy but after around the 7th ish was very hot and sunny until the 19th and was warm and cloudy for the rest of the month. August was wall to wall sunshine for the first half with a length heatwave. The second half was more benign pleasant summer weather.

    Overall 2018 was a more front loaded (June/July) summer and featured one very lengthy spell and 2022 was more back loaded (July/August) with two major spells broken up by benign weather in between.

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