Discombobulation Man

The central zones have actually done quite well here, I went snow spotting into zone 2 and into Westminster yesterday and places like St Johns wood had 6cms which is a cm more than here. The radar hasn't been too kind to London but when it has the central and southern zones haven't done too bad. Most of the capital bar the main business districs have at least some lying snow. Very pleased about the upgrades but does anyone know what's going to happens to the wind direction with the new upgrades? specifically up the Estuary and into London?? Please not another North Easterly

I said it earlier but someone said I was just complaining and that it was just a theory, in fact i've said it a zillion times this week: All the good stuff will go to the south and east of London because the steering winds are NNE/NE and have been throughout the last few days generally - hence the disaster for London. Winds turn more direct Eaterly for Monday - just in time for some light sleet. We should get couple more cm's of transient pish off this mess that's coming from the continent though so at least we get something. For our neck of the woods I'm praying for an unexpected surprise to appear. BTW I think we have now been within 20 miles from big snow attacks in all directions and missed out now. Fingers crossed for you and me that something freakish happens soon

Phwoar!! I dont believe it! congratulations man! Are the main roads and Asda plastered in that sort of depth aswell?? Typical I leave after 15 years there of sod all and now it gets pasted!

Snizzle stopped and now clearing skys here. . . the steering winds are NNNE at this moment so there is little chance of the heavy stuff making it here but later we may get a bit more than snizzle as we move round to a North Easterly. However the annoyingly accurate MetO Invent rainfall projections appear to break up the bands into flecks as they move across London later Winds switch to direct Easterly early Monday which looks like being to late for us. . . best hope is for some sort of surprise, last minute turn of events to bring us in to play.

Snizzard here! If this keeps up for 10 hours we may sneak a cm

Doh! lol wouldn't surprise me! Nothing changes Still think you should do very well, is woodham already plastered? even no puddles in Asda car park :lol: ?

Well you're in with a better chance of hitting 5-10cms than me and I guess we could rack up 12 hrs of light snow but the heavy stuff is always steered away S/E. . . and light snow in London could mean puddles and little settling from around midnight and into tomorrow as the urban heat zone tries to sneak above freezing. I'm hoping for something last minute and unexpected to happen, thats the only way I see this area of London copping more than a 2-5cm

Hi mate, yeah looks like it for us, still I did manage to get a 4 day icicle out of this off of a cracked gutter - still going As I said before, unfortunately as the band eventually edges further NE the onshore steering winds at this end of the Estuary will keep the heavier precipitation away to the S and East of main London. We should pick up the lighter stuff and we can somehow hope that the main convection band over Kent becomes far my active than thought and expands to include London. Big straw clutch for a proper Thames streamer on Sunday night/Monday for us though, as finally the steering wind direction becomes favaourable for here - however this occurs at the point when the main activity has all but moved away, but we can hope if the wind is strong enough that it might kick off a decent streamer.

Um, I'm afraid it really isn't going to be exciting, it's the same old problem I'm afraid, the steering winds at the West end of the Estuary are and have been NNE-NE for most of this terrible cold spell. This means that as soon as anything decent comes up the Thames it will be steered away to the South East of London and will not push through and give us a dollop. The steering winds do not have a direct Easterly component in them until late Sunday into Monday when all the action is dead. Best chances to catch the heavier bursts of precip are for these areas: East London (E) South West London (SW) South East London (SE) Looks very bleak if you live in: Central London (EC/WC) West London (W) North London (N) North West London (NW) We need to hope for a last minute change in steering winds, that's the only way most of London can get anything reasonable from this, as it is, most of London will be lucky to get a cm or 2 from this. Utter disaster

For anyone in my neck of the woods concerned that those strong cells out in the Estuary will follow up the Thames and dump on us, dont be; the onshore steering winds will keep us nicely protected and send the snow south east of here - a theme that will constantly repeat throughout the weekend Will get a bit of transcient rubbish though.

Yep, champagne if you're in it, tears and tissues if you're out of it. . . I'm going with tissues and vodka this weekend - lots of both needed for me judging by the pish charts.

Terrific, that just about completes my misery that has been the last 2 weeks of toss The only thing worse than having barely any snow in what should have been dream synoptics; is not having barely any and spending 2 weeks following snow on a radar that goes to everyone elses garden but yours. That last minute change in projected wind direction up the estuary from direct East to NEE for Sunday is just about the cruelest thing that could of happened.

We did quite well here in zone 3. . . 4-5cms at least, but some of zones 1 and 2 beat me would you believe lol

That's the problem they are not ENE, nor will they be switching to it anytime soon. They're NNE at the mo and unfortunately they won't switch around far enough east to have much of an impact on London at all over this weekends event. That's the reason why London has been downgraded in the last few hours - the direct Easterly kicking in for Sundays precipitation is now not going to happen, it's going to basically stay NE. The snow then clears north and we then get put in a direct Easterly feed but by then it's too late for London - by then the action is dead. Seriously I can find no more straws to clutch for London now, unless by some miracle a major easterly component kicks in to coincide with the precipitation then we'll just have to make do with a 3 or 4 more cms from Sundays event. A 2 week snizzly disaster for this neck of the woods looks like finishing in much the same vein.

I'm not as sure as I was now for us, I mean no doubt we'll see some snow from this but the problem is if we want to get the best of the available precipitation then we need a direct Easterly to push it up the Estuary and right into London, but the direct Easterly doesn't kick in properly now until Monday; by which time it looks like the best of the precipitation will have moved away. We bloody well stay in a damn NNE again all the way through to Monday!

No advisories for the whole region at all now on Monday/Tuesday, surely you would of thought an ice risk at least? . . . Anyway it's about this time of day - after sod all again despite warnings for the last zillion days, when I go through my usual round of straw clutching for London (particuarly zones 1-3) so. . The key for us is getting rid of this useless NE wind, it will never deliver us the BEST stuff because the long land tracks gradually cut off the juice supply and we just end up with transcient pish. During Sunday the wind shifts to a direct Eastery and should pile the bigger stuff straight up the Estuary into the heart of London and edges of bordering counties. So I would say early Sunday is the best straw to grab if you're in the heart of London - thats our best chance of copping the big big dollop - just disappointed that no warning now for Monday, which suggests there's not going to be a large window to get the really prolonged pasting that I'd hoped for. Of course later on Saturday we also have a good chance of getting some of the good stuff because even though the wind direction still wont favour us it will be stronger and so there's much more chance of those bigger showers and bands holding together for longer. Good luck eh :lol:

Usual waste of time here, more downgrades and again only a chance of a few flecks of snow today and now nothing for the weekend. In the words of C. Tate; "What a load of old sheet"

I told you before earlier that you need to get a specialist team in to monitor why it's the most snowless, stormless and eventless place in the UK. Lived in Celeborn street for 15 years and had practically nothing, sat and watched the radar for years watching snow fizzle out or turn to sleet over that hell hole. Definitely wants a beast south-easter to get a pasting I actually reckon you could do quite well from this cold spell - typical since I moved Jan 09. Good luck to woodham. . . and Asda

I think if people came out of the parks and onto the grit and pavements they'd be surprised at how much snow is lying :lol: our road here in Kensal Green(~zone 3) is still covered with yesterdays mini dump and is basically perfect for skidding with your washing basket.

Yeah didn't do bad actually got a couple of inches lying. For this event to be remembered I need to get more than feb 09 which was 14cms and even zone 1 they got 26cm apparently somewhere near oxford street. So thats a fair bit to top actually.

Cant find any straws to clutch for London zones 1-3 at all, we have to wait until tuesday to get a direct easterly feed and get the convection piling in up the estuary - but by that time the marginal air will be just creeping over us and with the urban afterburners fired up we'll probably get sleet/rain. Pretty much a disaster for here, given that we'll probably have to wait another 50 years for these synoptics, 5cms is very forgetable in what should be memorable synoptics :unsure:

Completely depends on the prevailing wind, any Easterly with a southerly component will shift precip to places north of the Thames and vice versa for a northerly component.

Yeah me too, I'm on a similar line. I think it's going to start curling in on itself and lose it's main feed, just hope there's enough juice left on it to give me a few CMs

Lol, I read your posts quite alot because I only moved from South Woodham Ferrers at the beginning of last year, used to live down Celeborn street and then Brace walk for a total of 15 years. Everything you say about that place is true, I've had more lying snow here in Central London since Feb 09 than I had in a decade at South Woodham. They should get some team with specialist equipment to monitor the place and find out why the hell it's the most snowless, stormless, eventless place in Essex. I lost count of the times it was snowing in Chelmsford or Southend while I was working and then get back home to Woodham and find sweet FA or just snizzle. Like you I used to spend countless hours, over many years of my life glued to the radars watching the font come in and fizzle out over Woodham. . . soul destroying. You truly are in a hellish place if you enjoy the weather, good luck with the coming event mate, you're gonna need a roaring South Easterly to get a pasting in Asdaville

Yep utter waste of time here, the band that came down from EA early this morning stayed a couple of miles to my East and pepped up on leaving south of London by a whisker thanks to that stupid NE feed off the Estuary. . . Even more worrying for us Londoners is that Metoffice new flashy 'invent' tool - which has been pretty good with highlighting the main convection areas, shows almost nothing for London itself between now and Saturday after updating its projections for the shifted low track. I really can't find any straws to clutch other than that hopefully the MetO haven't got a clear picture of whats going to happen. Anyone else find any straws for London?