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23 minutes ago, Met4Cast said:
You seem very reactionary to each individual run of the model, you'll pass out from exhaustion in a week or two if you keep that up!
Deterministic runs need to be used in conjunction with the ensemble suites to get a clearer idea of the route forward. You wouldn't pick ensemble 15 lets say and hang every thought and hope on that 1 single ensemble run each and every time the model updates, so why do that with the deterministic? It's just another ensemble member. The evolution is going to constantly chop and change as models try to find the solution forward. The ensembles will be the best guidance, individual det runs less so.
Agree with what you say about being reactionary, going to cause a lot of unnecessary stress! Can the deterministic runs be given any additional weight, or are they exactly the same in terms of accuracy as the ensembles? I always thought deterministic runs had a higher resolution. Thanks
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1 hour ago, nick sussex said:
I’m wondering whether this is a data issue perhaps re observations in that area .
There is a lack of conventional observational data above 70N.
You have good satellite coverage there but lack other observations. I don’t think we’d be seeing this stand off if the area of contention was further south.
I’n shocked that this drama has continued overnight !
Do the models use the same observational data? Or do they all have their own independent inputs?
Thanks
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3 minutes ago, Rich_Clements said:
Very icy roads here tonight with water running across from all of the rain which has now frozen, go careful out there in the morning.
I’m very surprised there are not local warnings for ice, already heard on 2 cars on their roof due to black ice near Corfe Castle.
Standing Water + Freezing = High Impact, IMHO!
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31 minutes ago, SizzlingHeat said:
Its boring and slow. If it reaches it will be nothing more than a few bits of dandruff in the wind. Waste of time. Im off!
Tend to agree, probably monitor until midnight, have a good idea by then.
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13 minutes ago, Mapantz said:
Temp hit 1.6°C. Still a lot of snow/slush and water about,. and the temp is now falling. Surely the MO will put out a warning for ice?
I thought the same, should be a warning for Ice. Currently 1 degree and a lot of surface water still. With temps dropping, I’d expect ice to form.
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Morning All,
Quick question, is the data that sits behind the operational runs for any of the charts available?
I was thinking about plotting a single variable (eg 850’s) from each run from the same model (offset for time difference), to see where they diverge.
So essentially I’m just looking for 850’s data for a single location for each run, from any model.
Thanks
David
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4 minutes ago, Wivenswold said:
At which day are we calling "Shannon's Entropy"?
I'd venture there's enough variance between the models at Day 4. The rest is FI.I guess the ensembles will help to answer this question, but I would guess around 4 to 5 days.
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3 minutes ago, WindWatcher said:
I’m really worried for my neighbours house, their house burnt down last summer after a neighbours BBQ got out of hand. The builders despite working 7 days a week haven’t got to the stage the scaffolding can come down. Most of the roof is on but the windows aren’t in upstairs. I hope that scaffolding doesn’t collapse causing even more damage. I might have to set up a camera if is as bad as expected down here.
We’ve got a very similar house with scaffolding one up from us! Also have concerns!
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29 minutes ago, Liam Burge said:
Ooo I might have to go out and buy some super noodles.
Things aren’t that bad
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The Met Office Red has disappeared from the App, I wonder if they’re updating?
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49 minutes ago, warmintim said:
Most of England is already under an amber warning. I honestly don't know what people want?
Its about using judgement. In their defence, calling red warnings all the time that turn out not to be needed is more damaging than waiting and seeing what is needed.
There’s a lot of irritability on here today, my comment related to ‘IF’ a red warning was issued later tomorrow morning .
I have faith in what the Met-Office are capable of, as it sounds like you do!
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2 minutes ago, Liam Burge said:
Isn't tomorrow morning a tad too late?
Gate, Horse, Bolt!
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6 minutes ago, seb said:
Laura on GMB one of the few who is doing what we should expect.
Indeed, apart from referencing 1986
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26 minutes ago, Cold Winter Night said:
GEFS is produced by NOAA-NCEP.
Their data are available here:
NOMADS-NOAA Operational Model Archive and Distribution System
NOMADS.NCEP.NOAA.GOVI would not be surprised though if it were quite a puzzle to get those complex data sorted out.
It would not be my favourite chore, but perhaps you're a data freak?Superb, thanks for the link. I’m a wanna be data freak . There must be some kind of automation that could be set up to pull the latest data into a DB. I might just give it a go!
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Evening All,
Does anybody know if any of the model ensemble data is available as a data file, as opposed to pre-constructed chart form?
I’d like to start plotting different runs for the same date and see how much they vary as they get closer to the period they’re predicting.
Thanks
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You won’t believe this, I just seen an actual snow flake coming out of the sky! The amount of time spent looking at this forum, forecasts and radars has paid off! (Almost)
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18 minutes ago, offerman said:
I can understand the short-term excitement as does look pretty good for a lot of us ,but only up until Wednesday, as in the south.
thereafter it looks like the Atlantic will prevail as it so often does, it’s just too powerful on these charts.I’m no expert, but having followed this and other forums for over 15 years, generally these cold blocks are underestimated. I would add to that that the further you go out in terms of time, the less reliable the forecast, so whilst it is an outcome, it may not be a likely one.
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1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:
Local ITV forecast on now looks a bit patchy to be blunt. Sorry for bad news.
I wouldn’t take a channel that employs Piers Morgan too seriously
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Settling on grass and cars, will be settling on roads shortly! Guess the 4 hours sleep I got earlier will have to do...
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The heavier snow has just started in Wimborne, hopefully we’ll get a covering like the IOW.
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11 minutes ago, matt111 said:
Don't know what will happen later on but it's frozen on top of the snow at the moment.
Same here in Wimborne!
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Definitely not snow in Wimborne, could be sleet? Not sure!
Model Output Discussion - Into February
in Forecast Model Discussion
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Goes to show how the varying positions of the high (when it starts to finally move away), have a big impact on the weather we’ll experience.