Jayces

Both impressive and scary how quickly he's grown. The models seem to be trending more and more to him not striking land though and curving away from land instead which is very lucky for those in the original predicted path if that is indeed what happens.

39.5c on Thursday in London.

He's been officially named Barry.

Feel free to give us a forecast yourself?

They can only show what they are programmed to show based on the start data and algorithms they use to work out what may happen from that point? It's the same old challenge here in the UK being a small island trying to pinpoint or weather is very hard beyond a couple of days. Today was a lovely day and it was only 21 degrees in my area so I'll happily take 25 and if it gets hotter it's a bonus. It's looking like it will, it's rare for the big 3 to agree beyond 48 hours so will have to wait until midweek to see what is in store for next weekend.

Deadly? Not to put a damper on things and not the right thread but certainly in context but is this a good time to bring it the old climate change argument? I guess it's a wait and see how this pans out but I don't think anyone wants the sort of heat India is currently experiencing and certainly not regularly.

The IPBES Global Assessment on biodiversity was released yesterday at https://www.ipbes.net/ and makes grim reading. It lists climate change as an increasing factor in the state of life on our planet. Although the report says it's not too late to act it does stress that changes on a global scale have to happen now if we are to prevent mass extinctions on a global scale of our animal and plant life in the near future. The headline is that 25% of all animal and plant species face extinction within decades. The message is that Climate Change and biodiversity issues need to be dealt with together as they are inter connected. Scary stuff but it's clear from watching the news yesterday and seeing the newspaper headlines today that here in the UK the potential extinction of humankind isn't as important as another royal baby as only 2 major newspapers had it on their front page this morning and the BBC dedicated 37 minutes of the 6 PM evening news last night to the royal baby and 2 minutes to the future of our planet. Makes one wonder when 'we' will wake up and realize we need to actually listen to the scientists, accept the evidence presented to us and come together on a global scale and fix the mess we have created.

I've seen a similar comment to this one elsewhere in the media recently and I was genuinely wondering how this could be beneficial? I'm 49 and there certainly seems to be more reports of natural disasters (fires, storms, flooding and heatwaves) in the news these days then when I was a child and we do have facts showing a rising temperature, melting ice, rising sea levels, shrinking forests and rising CO2 in the atmosphere so if the latter is indeed causing the former then I'm curious as to how this could be thought of as a good thing?

Some lovely pics here this morning Nothing to write home about here in Croydon and rapidly melting even though we were close to the 'jackpot' zone. I think one of the issues is the ground is probably too warm hence why there is such a fast melt going on. That and it just never snowed as much as we were all going for of course.

It's like the good charts that always seem to be 10 days away, every time I check the met office app for South Norwood the heavy snow is coming later though lasting longer! It now has heavy snow for this area starting at midnight into rush hour tomorrow and then a mixture of sleet and light rain all day!

11?! But I'm sleepy....

This from a work colleague in East Sussex, think it's Seafood way.

Sorry should have clarified, I was referring to the heavier stuff. I'll take whatever is available though so feel free to blow some up the road

Here in South Norwood (Croydon) according to the Met Office app the snow was due to arrive around 5 PM then 7 PM then 9 PM and now it's 11PM. This just goes to show how difficult it is to predict the weather in a particular location

I don't know if it's fair to say bust at this stage because the Met Office warning covering us says 1 to 3 cm expected. Yes lots of very clever people on here are suggesting much higher totals and we'll know by tomorrow morning whether the Met Office called it right or not.

Good point. Another suggestion form many moons ago was to put your location in your signature?

No I meant I thought the METO were quite good at doing the warnings when they think they are needed so they probably haven't done an amber warning for us yet because they don't think it's necessary? I mean I love the enthusiasm and excitement on here and it's the same every year but I'm not sure that our area is going to get the sort of totals that are going to warrant an amber warning personally, of course I'd love to be wrong so I don't have to go in for a work meeting tomorrow

Sod it, I'm subscribing to the NW radar, hope I don't jinx it! As for the alerts from METO, I've always found them to be pretty good with them in the past so if they haven't given us an amber warning yet then either they aren't expecting this to be as disruptive as suggested or they are waiting until they can be more certain of the potential amber area?

Surely that's a good sign

Yes, see above

I believe a Thames Streamer (or any streamer) is where under the right conditions a line of persistent showers form at an estuary due to a difference of air and water temperatures and the wind direction and so a funnel from the source spreading out forms a line of showers for the same places meaning that favored areas get significantly more snow then surrounding areas. 2009 or might have been 2010 was a good example where SE London had several inches of snow and this spread SW from there down towards the IOW but other areas to the NE only had a couple of inches. One of the NW staff here did a good write up about it which I'm sure is hidden away on here somewhere...

I've just looked outside and I can confirm it's night time in Croydon

Save your breaths folks aren't going to listen

That must be one hell of a lemon if it's blocking your view totally!