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I'm definitely backing the anomalies at that range- no contest. And sod's law is not a good enough reason to back that op run, even if Alderc says so.

It must be very different in North Wales then as it's not the slightest bit autumnal here in terms of vegetation etc. The trees are still vibrantly green and the days could barely be any longer at the moment. The sun is so high too- very surprising anyone could think things were autumnal in midsummer.

Yes I've been saying this all along- the Met Office have access to a lot more data than the amateur model watchers on these forums have. Yet people persist in banging on about this horrific weekend that is supposedly coming. Looking mostly dry for many of us and not that bad in the south either.

It just seems random that a guy from Seattle would be making fun of a climate that is arguably better in some ways. Fair enough if he lived in LA but Seattle- seems odd to me! The winters sound every bit as dull as over here but far far wetter- that is not something I'd want to live through in order to get a good summer.

I think Londoners could potentially laugh at how wet Seattle's winters are though- I had no idea how wet they actually were until I looked before. 147mm on average in January- incredibly wet!

Interestingly London is a lot drier than Seattle and has a lot less days with precipitation over the year- remarkably so. Seattle has 156 days with precipitation (considerably more than Manchester even with 142) compared to only 109 days in London. London averages 601 mm annually with Seattle averaging 999 mm. Fair to say it's much wetter in Seattle by every measure!

A bit of cloud around here but still sunny spells today- very decent again without being particularly warm.

Yes it's been very good here too- still only 4.6mm of rain at my local weather station in June. I wonder if there has ever been a summer month before that has been so much better up north than down south. The cricket in Southampton has had 2 full days rained off (World Test Championship final) but if they'd played it at Old Trafford there would barely have been an interruption in play. Possibly for bad light on Monday evening but other than that, play wouldn't have been stopped at all. A fair bit of sunshine over the past 3 or 4 days too.

Very slow springs though compared to the UK usually- they had some serious cold in May this year in Sweden.

Climate wise I would much rather live in the UK than Lithuania. Horrible winters and summers aren't all that special either on average. I have been to Lithuania too

It would be very rare for all the major forecasters to get it this wrong so close to the event.

The BBC still aren't going for much rain at all this weekend and nor are the Met Office at this stage. If the weekend was going to be as catastrophic as many are predicting on here I'm sure they would have picked it up by now. I would be shocked if they are trumped by an army of amateur model watchers in here- but stranger things have happened I guess!

I'm not convinced at all that this month is going to finish below 16C- still time for some warmer days before the month is out. I have a feeling the last week is going to end up reasonably warm and will then lead us into a warmer than average July- possibly well above.

Slightly OTT- it's not realistic to expect summer in the UK to be a continuous, warm dry and settled affair all the way through. Even the great summers of the past had cooler periods. June 2018 had a cooler middle period before warming up again considerably in the last week.

108 hours of sunshine here for the first half which is comfortably above average around here- I believe the June average for the month is around 173 hours. It's certainly quite a bit sunnier than 2007 which has been singled out as another good first half. Average max of 22C as well which again is well above average for the first half of the month around here. To me consistently warm is more important than high maxima. Our highest here this month is 25.5C which isn't exceptional but almost every day has reached 20C- only 2 days so far haven't managed it. Much better than some past Junes that had short plumes but were mostly cool otherwise- June 2000 is a prime example. 2019 is another.

Thankfully UKMO looks a lot better to me. That is just comically bad from the GFS. Hard to come up with worse summer charts if you tried.

You always get someone playing down the good summer months. You've made the point yourself here- it's been a very good first half for many. I certainly can't recall many better first halves of June in these parts. Statistically there haven't been many at all. Even the classic Junes have tended to be cooler than this month in the first half.

The likelihood of warmth persisting into midweek and possibly beyond is increasing it seems. Thankfully the latest GFS run keeps the green colours away from most of us.

Exactly, I don't know why the cloud levels are a surprise to anyone in a setup like this. It's always been this way when the Azores High sets up slightly too far south. Warm, humid air with a lot of cloud usually, especially further north and west.

I don't think it's going to be disastrous but I imagine it will be feeling much 'fresher' next week from midweek. A word I always dread in mid summer. I'm sure it will be fine for golf. I play myself and I actually don't like playing that much on really hot days. This is the big problem I have with the British summer though. More often than not we're on a knife-edge and once a breakdown happens, the air that is introduced is far too cool and the pattern then gets stuck in place.

Amazing how the green snot seems to be finding its way back to us next week- remarkable after such an extended warmer spell. I was sure we'd seen the last of the green 850 hPa temps with all the warmer air being pumped to our north. It really does amaze me- other countries in Europe never seem to suffer from this in summer.

For once we agree David- no idea how it hasn't gone up after such a warm day across the CET zone yesterday.

Rostherne was already on 73 hours of sun up to yesterday after only 8 days of the month- we will be well ahead of the 2007 figure after today with only 9 days of the month gone . Not sure about the overall CET zone sunshine though.

Looking good at the moment- let's hope the cloud stays away all morning. Edit- Just looked at the satellite- virtually cloudless here at the moment but cloud moving into western parts of the region.

Liverpool Airport strikes again- 2C warmer than any station within 25 miles. I think there needs to be some investigation of that station. I know it's been official in the past but the recent readings have been dubious to say the least. Especially when there are more favoured spots in the area that are noticeably cooler every day at the moment.