cyclonic happiness

Well, surely it's nicer to have a little bit of a buzz about the place regardless of whether it'll come off or not? Usually I'd spend half the week's nights looking at this forum, but the weather has been so dull and boring of late, I've been elsewhere. (dull in the Midlands I meant) If you have a cold spell on the way, you can get as many as 30 pages in the MOD thread per night, and it's bloody good fun! I really don't think should be putting a dampener on things, this is a weather forum, not a 'full gone conclusion/you can't comment, because it most likely to be wrong' forum. Chill out, have fun, wildly speculate and don't let anyone bully into silence just because they think they know best (you know who you are) LET'S HAVE FUN AGAIN!!

Even a toppler would be welcome to most folk, it's absolutely horrendous that we can't even get a frost, let alone snow. At least the models are showing a bit of snow in FI, that was missing a couple of months ago.

I don't know if that's any better. If it's gonna be extremely wet and windy, I'd rather it be mild. This really is turning into Japanese water torture isn't it?

Not working for me, all my players are up to date and working?? Other podcasts work by the beeb? hmmm?

I think he's right. If only the weather spun from east to west, we'd be buried by snow every winter and have lovely hot summers too! If we all get our hair dryers out, we might be able to slow the earth and spin it anti-clockwise, therefore ending Britain's run of stupidly mild winters!! Who's with me?

I've been trying to access the BBC's forecasts over the past few days and it's been offline for at least 3 days now. Is it the cyber attack or something? http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/

I've been looking at the snowcover maps for over 10 years now, and have only seen it maybe once or twice before, but never to the extent it has been. I think we all know that it can snow there on occasion, but it's still noteworthy. I wonder if there is a similar thread on the American forums, where they get excited about seeing snow in lowland uk? :-D After all, that's a lot rarer than in Morocco, New Mexico, Egypt and probably even Dubai

I'd be fine with global warming if we actually got nicer summers, but they have been awful the past few years. The weather doesn't seem all that extreme in my locality, just the variation in weather is getting less and less. We've not even had a damn frost this winter, when was the last time that the middle Midlands, didn't get a frost in December? No doubt the spring will be cold (not bitterly, just craply), and the summer, and the autumn warm and the winter.....warm. It's the lack of variety that has upset me the most :-(

I still think we're going to see some good action later in the month. The cold air is gradually and ever so slowly, dropping down from the north. The patterns of the hemisphere are unusual at the minute, which would make it hard for the models to grasp properly, that's why there's so much flip flopping. I'm optimistic

It 'might' be ok , were we to get summer as well, but that has been awol for as long as winter has.

I'm looking at the huge thousand mile long and 800 mile wide record anomoly in the Arctic, you know, the unprecedented one? The one that has thrown all the models in a chaotic mess over the next few days? That America and Asia are bitterly cold goes without saying, but to have the high Arctic at almost 9'c in the middle of winter is nothing short of amazing. They don't even get those temps very often in mid-summer let alone almost January.

It's nowhere near 'normal' to have that much warm (not just mild, actually 'warm') moving up so far north at this time of the year. I mean, they barely get those temperatures in summer let alone mid-winter. So, ofc it's going to bugger up the models and the hemispheric patterns. We are in uncharted water at this moment in time, nothing is off limits

So where is all the cold air being displaced to? Or is it just not there to begin with? We're either going to get record breaking cold or war out of this set up, I can't see the models being able to handle such an unprecedented setup. It's both extremely frustrating and yet fascinating. (makes me feel better that even the Arctic can't get below freezing )

As someone pointed out on Two, how can we expect cold weather, when even the north pole is above freezing in the middle of the Arctic night, in mid-winter??? Something is very, very broken this year. Are these temperatures unprecedented up there??? (2 metre temps shown)

Yep and the warm sector meant that just 20 miles from here it was rain. Luckily we have a bit of hieght here at 400ft , that really helped. I can't have really come to this...can it? We don't even get northerly topplers like we did in the last decade either. They were all the rage on netweather for quite a few years.

The worst thing is though that, even in the mildest winters, we always got one or two days of snow and frosts, but now it's just nothingness. We don't even get much rain or wind. Also we don't get heavy showers like we used to in spring, you know, the ones you can see coming for miles in lovely clear air. With black bottoms and huge convective billowing cumulonimbus clouds. Something really has gone seriously wrong with the weather :-(

Really has been horrendous the past 2 years here in the Midlands. Last winter I only got 3 air frosts, and this winter so far zero. It's really going to be a pee take if the only snow we see this 'winter' was in autumn. I really do stick by my statement that 'climate change has just robbed our weather of variety' It's just one long boring autumn from one end of the year to the next.

Nope, I've never seen it that far south, it's beyond a p**s take!

Well, would you look at the state of the Americas!! Snow over the entirety of New Mexico, and into Mexico proper, Nevada, Texas, even Arizona, have more snow than Europe!! >< So El Nino just means that the north is warm and the south is cold...............AGAIN!

And the whole of New Mexico too!! WTF nature, sort yourself out!!!

I've never seen so much snowfall as far south into Mexico as today's update. I'm starting to think that the nearer you are to the tropics, the more likely you are to see snow!

Oh yeah, that was me. I was upset because nothing was even showing that was remotely interesting in FI or anywhere. Well....................... now I have my interest back :-D

It's very strange how all the rainfall in the UK seems to be concentrated on North Wales and Cumbria, have you seen the MET office rainfall anamoly chart, it's very dry most everywhere else, but the northwest is being drowned (no, not Kanye and Kim's kid). Why is all the moisture so stuck in that rut? It's a tiny area on a global, and even a European scale? I know the geological reasons for it, but it's just very strange that it's so intense in such a small area and for such a long period of time. We can only hope for a change to drier and colder weather (hopefully, what's being shown in FI) although you can bet that it'll be blizzards that would bury the poor folk of Cumbria then :-(

Seems my words are magic! I defy the GFS to to show more of its teasing. I defy you to get within 24hrs before dropping the 'bomb' on us. I defy you!!!!